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Academics and they want to get rid of some of the political window dressing that seems to accompany all of this. >> they are not true academics, they graduate with degrees and zombie studies. but actually, i went down to a new college a few days ago and wow, did i see something different than the picture the governor has been painting. i have talked with some of the students on campus to find out why they are there and what they are actually learning. most urgently, how governor desantis is trying to change all of it. >> why did you end up -- how did you end up here? >> i was looking at state ...

That you read earlier are correct, it appears maybe some have been able to get that care. but let's face it. we have been working on the issue of rape and trying to solve that issue in states like texas for a long time. meanwhile, we have had thousands of rape kit tests sitting in evidence room shelves, not addressing that, because women are not believed. and so if they're not believed in the instance of prosecuting a rape case, how are they going to believe -- be believed as a rape exception to an abortion ban? these exceptions like you said a minute ago, they're really just window dressing t...

Corporation, there will be political consequence. and to impact this practicality wise, a little bit of window dressing and disney can appoint people to the special district, but the governor can. appear to distill a special special taxing and tax breaks, and so, the practicality of it is this is mf a symbol and a statement than it is we are pulling money out of disney's pocket. because they are really not. this is our first step in and you screwed with us and you lose a little autonomy here. it will not cost disney any money, basically is what i'm saying. >> neil: but you know, you would thin...

Continuing. to react, carol swain and leo terrell. thank you both for being with us. dr. swain, do you think -- looking at both university of texas and unc, you know, i'm always skeptical to ever celebrate a victory on these things, because a lot of it seems to be often window dressing. but are these victories in moving towards a less race-conscious policy in higher education? >> i think they're moving towards compliance with that federal civil rights laws and the constitution's equal protection clause. one of the problems with the dei programs is that they compel people to engage in speech th...

Committing fraud is just a matter of understanding the system and taking advantage of its weakness to commit a crime. and that's exactly what these guys did. we had to prove that the mri, the patient files and examinations were window dressing that allowed them to deal drugs legally. >> all florida pills right there. there's another one there, south florida pain. roxicodone, xanax. >> when i first seen the first doctor, i was 17. we would just go see the doctor and come back, just like going to the mall. yeah, a 40-hour trip to the mall. >> our business quickly grew from almost 100 percent loc...