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Microsoft for offering people free software. at the time >> microsoft spent zero dollars on lobbying. they were busy changing the world. creating computer revolution and helping the internet revolution. for that they got drawn into court. they spent millions, hundreds of millions defending themselves again the justice department. how much money they spend today on lobbyists hundreds of millions of dollars a year. they learned their ugly lesson. we created a system in which if you don't do it you are at a competitive disadvantage. >> a public-private partnership. >> a public-private partnership...

But not unlawful. >> the government sued microsoft for offering people free software. at the time >> microsoft spent zero dollars on lobbying. they were busy changing the world. creating computer revolution and helping the internet revolution. for that they got drawn into court. they spent millions, hundreds of millions defending themselves again the justice department. how much money they spend today on lobbyists hundreds of millions of dollars a year. they learned their ugly lesson. we created a system in which if you don't do it you are at a competitive disadvantage. >> a public-private par...