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But also worrying, because fundamentally, given the force of arms of the russians and their greater firepower, i don't see how the ukrainians are going to win this on the battlefield. and as a result, you're thinking in your head, this is going to be a bloodbath, this really is going to be a bloodbath. and that, sadly, is what we're seeing. there was a woman i saw in a bread queue and we were talking to her, and she said, we will fight the russians, even on our own. she must have been in her 50s, you know, heavy coat, keep out the winter chill, waiting in the queue, we approached her, we talke...

How did you relate to them, what did they say to you? i was fascinated by their resolve, and it's that resolve and that backbone that i found very, very impressive. but also worrying, because fundamentally, given the force of arms of the russians and their greater firepower, i don't see how the ukrainians are going to win this on the battlefield. and as a result, you're thinking in your head, this is going to be a bloodbath, this really is going to be a bloodbath. and that, sadly, is what we're seeing. there was a woman i saw in a bread queue and we were talking to her, and she said, "we will ...

Thinking in your head, this is going to be a bloodbath, this really is going to be a bloodbath. and that, sadly, is what we're seeing. there was a woman i saw in a bread queue and we were talking to her, and she said, "we will fight the russians, even on our own." she must have been in her 50s, you know, heavy coat, keep out the winter chill, waiting in the queue, we approached her, we talked to her, and that was very much the attitude, even though we're on our own, we're going to fight, because this is our land, and this... it deserves to be saved. when you talk to people — people like this...

You know, heavy coat, keep out the winter chill, waiting in the queue, we approached her, we talked to her, and that was very much the attitude, even though we're on our own, we're going to fight, because this is our land, and this... it deserves to be saved. when you talk to people — people like this woman in the queue and all the other dozens of people that you spoke to — what were their attitudes to the west, to the way we responded to their plight? i think there was a general sense that the west would not leave them to completely take on the might of russia on their own. that, at some ...

But also worrying, because fundamentally, given the force of arms of the russians and their greater firepower, i don't see how the ukrainians are going to win this on the battlefield. and as a result, you're thinking in your head, this is going to be a bloodbath, this really is going to be a bloodbath. and that, sadly, is what we're seeing. there was a woman i saw in a bread queue and we were talking to her, and she said, "we will fight the russians, even on our own." she must have been in her 50s, you know, heavy coat, keep out the winter chill, waiting in the queue, we approached her, we tal...