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Security and the department of veterans affairs while making huge cuts in discretionary spending, the epa, and the state, agriculture, labor departments and all of that take big hits in the budget. joining me is the debtirtor of office and management and budget, mick mulvaney. thank you for being on the show. >> thanks for having me. >> do you take the president at his word that he or his associates were wiretapped? >> i'm the numbers guy. i'm sitting here doing the budget and i'm not involved in the wiretapping issue. >> on one hand, are you concerned that eroding credibility on the that issu...

Probably going to be talking about the wiretapping which is part of the problem here, what we should be able to focus on is putting collusion behind us. right now we are getting distracted because we are focused on the wiretapping issue and the silly tweet that donald trump put out there than the real issues that matter to the american people. maria: that's what i keep asking cabinet members and said they are not being thrown off in terms of their agenda. they want to get gorsuch confirmed by easter and have obama replacement out by easter and tax reform by august. >> you know who keeps furthe...

Jim comey, the fbi director. it's not clear there has been anything to support that yet. and that really hope that the white house, you know, they can knock down some of the collusion talk that has been out there. that's really the best they can hope for from jim comey at this point. >> you are having a bit of a bbc moment, tom, and i hope everything's okay. live tv. that's how it goes. and sarah, i want to run more sound. when it comes to the wiretapping issue, bidthat was set to our w blitzer.

Wiretapping. what's interesting is he steps so out of the bounds of what the protocol is for the fbi director on the hillary clinton investigation, coming out saying that he wasn't going -- there couldn't be an indictment, you couldn't prosecute the case, this is why she made such a mess and he's apparently not allowed to confirm the existence of an investigation regarding national security in a public setting so there's going to be a lot of i can't answer that question tomorrow. so i'm interested to know beyond the wiretapping issue we actually get filled on. i think there might be a lot of d...

Patters partisan bases, we'll continue to have problems. >> i want to ask you about the wiretapping issue. we know the report has come out and said there is nothing to indicate trump's claim that there was in fact a wiretap that was done. do you think now it is the time for the president to apologize or at least to come out and say hey, it was a mistake to say it. >> well, look, yes, apparently there was no evidence to prove to support the charge former president obama may have tapped trump tower or candidate donald trump at the time. i would retract the words if i were in his shoes. for me, i...