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That if you're in some proximity to power, people throw money at you for nothing, and he got $50,000 a month from this company just on the basis of being the vice president's son. and if biden is the nominee, which i have a lot of doubts for, trump will hammer this every single day. chris crust all right, possible, we have to take a break. when we come back, president rouhani did not meet with trump this week -- with president trump at the u.n., but we sat down for a wide-ranging interview. we'll play the highlights and get reaction from our sunday group next. i'm embarrassed to even say i fel...

Took office. i gave you part of the reason for that, but there's more to it. so let's get after it with former ohio governor john kasich. why do you think the way it is, and thanks for joining us. >> chris, first of all, that's a sophisticated explanation. there's reasons why this is true. it's also true because america has a strong dollar. the fact is that people can buy more, right? so the strong dollar puts us in a position of where, you know, we're not getting people to do things here. and by being able to invest around the world, what we don't want to do, chris, because of this problem wi...

Strong dollar means that americans are in a position to buy more overseas. now, here's the good side of that. whenever anybody gets our dollars, they have to do something with it. and if they invest in our country in plant and equipment with the dollars that we use to buy their products, that helps build a stronger economy. >> right. >> the problem is when countries like china own our debt. now, the other deficit we have to think about is the national debt because there is this ridiculous debate going on in america today that it doesn't matter that we have a $22 trillion deficit, it doesn't ma...

He gets some kudos for that. >> sure. >> absolutely, because that means that he will have made some structural changes. look, there's a debate out there about where this is going to end up. i thought about it chris, the day after the korean summit broke up, i mean with north korea over in vietnam. what i thought about right then is what does this do for the china negotiations? and i don't know. the jury is out on where they're going to come down. it could be that china says, oh, we'll buy more soybeans or whatever. but what we're looking for are the structural changes that must come vis-á-vis...

You know what i mean? there's enough sugar in the news right now. this stuff is going to matter. it's going to matter in the election. it's a challenge for the democrats. how do you offer a better deal than the president has? the boxes are going to be about taxes, regulations, and trade. >> yep. here's another thing, chris, that we really need to understand, and that is when we're imposing tariffs on the canadians and we're beating up our european allies, when the time comes when we need something -- >> problem. >> when the time comes that we need them to kind of reach a little bit, when we ar...