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Donald trump or the campaign officials or the white house. for the first time, bob mueller is alleging, i can't repeat it enough, if you remember one thing from our reporting tonight, bob mueller is alleging today, the trump campaign is in the look to get dirt from hillary clinton on wikileaks that went back to russia. someone is directing officials about staying in that loop. wow! all of this is the kind of thing that a white house which we reported and document lies a lot. the folks who do a lot of lying had to shift today on how they describe this from no collusion to one that involved the ...

Long time ago. this is the president who flu tlau wrench in these works and who is an incredibly unreliable negotiator. he says one thing one day, members of congress takes a little while to implement what he says, even if it's only a couple of hours, that's plenty of time for this president to change his tune. so it seems like we're in for another week of kind of going through these motions to see if that resets it enough that we can actually have a legitimate conversation. >> and tom nichols, for any of those who have a sense of unease about this presidency, i think it's worth asking you abo...

I'm not here to grill you. why do you believe that brett kavanaugh should be believed about what he said? >> yeah, i've known brett for over 20 years. what he presented today is who he is, he's not a perfect person. as he said, and -- but he's very credible, very much a gentleman, and i believe he was totally sincere in saying i never did this. i also think if you look at it, the way this whole thing was structured, i agree with you, it was a circus and it was terrible. could have been prevented by dianne feinstein and her staff. they had the letter back in early july, they could have gone to ...

Congressman and a co-founder of the federalist society. i'm not here to grill you. why do you believe that brett kavanaugh should be believed about what he said? >> yeah, i've known brett for over 20 years. what he presented today is who he is, he's not a perfect person. as he said, and -- but he's very credible, very much a gentleman, and i believe he was totally sincere in saying i never did this. i also think if you look at it, the way this whole thing was structured, i agree with you, it was a circus and it was terrible. could have been prevented by dianne feinstein and her staff. they had...

Husband, that fleshes out the account and potentially provide additional details that might, you know, actually go to the veracity of one side or the other whereas just getting these two people in front of the senate judiciary committee, i think we'll end up in an anita hill situation again. >> look, here's the problem. the stakes are the problem. not only do they compromise any sense of objectivity, but it would be different if this were an allegation that came up as a determination of whether or not judge kavanaugh should stay in his position as a circuit court judge. that would be one situa...