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Have a democracy when the majority of the population is disenfranchised. we're still having the struggle now. look at what's happening in 2016 on the horizon for 2020 and the battles over voter access and voter suppression and these kinds of things. but at the beginning, the outset of the country is very clear. most people who lived in this country could not vote. so it's problematic to say we will start with the kind of halcyon days of american controlalism and talk about the ideals of the founders without talking about the ways they were circumvenned by race i didn't feel, sexism, by classis...

But i think she did the right thing and she had no choice. kirsten gillibrand made her mark by taking on the chairman of her own committee, carl levin, who as a new senator over the issue of sexual abuse in the military. she was the one who could not be silent about this, she said what she had to say, she did the right thing to be consistent with herself. >> okay. and i agree, she has been very consistent on it. does it feel, susan, to you like this is maybe a part two of some sort of a campaign, democrats ousting senator franken on lesser charges so now they have license to go after roy moore...

Ago. >> some day i feel like i need to do that. >> brings us to our panel to talk about this today. peter baker, and white house correspondent, and rick engel, former secretary of state and public affairs. >> welcome to you all. is this fish wrapped in paper and a bullet proof vest. thinks the most public message signal to rex tillerson? >> the president has been on the outs of the secretary now and with several months there would have to come a reckoning. it feel that is reckoning maybe

Outs of the secretary now and with several months there would have to come a reckoning. it feel that is reckoning maybe coming up the next few weeks. close to the end of the year or afterwards. the secretary was at the white house and he went for two different meetings. hems pl he's planning to go to europe and dealing with foreign counter parts and wondering will he be around much in the new year and what if it matter fs ths with t make a deal with him. >> the president is asking if you want rex tillerson on the job and his response is quote, "rex is here and in ducted to the hall-of-fame." >...

David, how much truth is there that the obama staff is not helping. >> trump responded a couple of things and not just the administration did with the resolution at u.n. president obama sat on the interview on the radio saying that he would have beaten donald trump had he run for the third term and the president said yesterday at a visit for pearl harbor that we need to remember our common bond and unity. i think he's reacting to that. >> francesca, it feel that is the president-elect is blaming blame to a slow start of this transition at the feet and for some reason at the obama administratio...