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Specifics tr if these candidates about national security and other issues as well. >> this is the most important debate so far. >> in the wake of donald trump's call for a ban on muslims in the united states this debate has gone above and beyond politics. these debates have been important and all of these have drun record audiences. david i guess nashs wrote something very important in "the washington post." e said historical reputations among the candidates will be made or lost over the course of the next few weeks. there's no moment when all of those candidates are going to be on stage and a...

Of living to which they are entitled. the only way i know how to do that, the history of the civil rights movement, millions coming together saying enough is enough, government has to work for all of us, not just a handful of wealthy people. that's being realistic. >> being realistic, a gallop poll says voters prefer atheists, muslims or gay person over a socialist as president. how do you deal with this? >> we deal with it issue by issue. my last election in the state of vermont with people who have known me for 31 years i got 71% of the vote. we have to gate way from the boogeyman word. knor...

>> wow, that's a reversal. i was against the tpp months and months ago. secretary clinton can justify her own reversal of opinion on this, but i didn't have one opinion eight months ago and switch that opinion on the eve of debates. >> lincoln chafe is joining me. what do you make of what hillary clinton said with that interview? is this a flip-flop? >> well, i guess i'm the only democratic candidate for president that's standing strong with president obama on this it issue of tpp. and yes, it is a flip-flop. you talked about her statements in australia. it's the gold standard back when she wa...

Her. who came in second. >> marco rubio showed himself to be very apt at foreign policy. something that he and his campaign has been trying to push. he looks like an adult in that room. >> he just took on social security and medicare which is another it issue that is a tough issue to take on because nobody wants to lay a glove on that but there are huge consequences perhaps down the road. anyway, we will hear from carly fiorina live shortly. stay with us. governor chris christie is standing by in south carolina. carolina. he is about to

As for whether there's a long term it issue, we don't have the answer for that. >> thank you both for your reports. coming up next we will get back into the day in politics. i will be joined by hillary clinton campaign spokesperson live on set here at 30 rock, back with more after this.