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By the way, long before this december so-called discussion that flynn had with his soon-to-be counterpart. f here is what is interesting to me. then we do have some russia collusion in the 20166 election. we have hillary and the dnc's bought and paid for unverified, uncorroborated dossier was that debunked. we know it was used to obtain a fisa warrant, four separate fisa applications against the trump campaign associate. we know that they lied to the fisa court. there were grand omissions in the fisa court. the bulk of the information was hillary clinton's bought and paid dossier. they didn't ...

What we can't know at this point is what is in those redacted sections and how it may relate to other individuals and any future criminal prosecution in the coming days or weeks, sean. >> sean: catherine herridge in washington. we will get back to her later in the program tonight. >> sure. >> sean: when weam talk about process crimes, wouldn't it be normal, when you look at the date, december 2016 incoming national security advisor talking to his russian counterpart. this is way over the line. look, i'm going to go through this slowly. if you believe in this constitutional republic, equal just...

Went through out whole litany of everything that happened with the clinton dossier. real russianor collusion, really paid for, really designed and used to influence the election. but let's got to the logan act in particular because that's what they cite here. how often has that been invoked, that federal statute, which prohibited unauthorized private diplomacy with foreign nations. wouldn't an incoming administration official at this level, wouldn't it be normal to have contact with your soon-to-be-counterpart? >> yes. in fact, in my book, i interviewed the author of an expert who wrote a book...

But what they do say in one section is that flynn has been so important to their investigations because, "the defendant began providing information to the government not long after the government first sought his cooperation. his early cooperation was particularly valuable because he was one of the few people with long-term and firsthand insight regarding events and issues under investigation by the special counsel."" so the bottom line is the special counsel is recommending the minimum, so no jail time for the former national security advisor. you are quite right. what's detailed here are pro...

Says this is a witch hunt he would allow george to be sacrificial lamb of this witch hunt. >> all right. thank you very much for your time. i appreciate you coming on and explaining your position. >> thank you very much. thank you. with me now is former watergate prosecutor. first of all your reaction to what you just heard there and argument that she was making. >> none of the arguments make sense. they're all over the board. he committed a very serious crime. if you read the government sentencing memo. it's quite clear he told the truth about the professor t russian he met in i think land ...