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You can't have a corporation come ran to a bus, you can't have corporation just give ten k to you in public period full stop you >> can't donate water. so this is a regulated space there are reasons, i think i will be interesting to litigat in the trial or -- how the feds stopped and the d picked it up and we discusse all that but, that doesn't sto the prosecution. it would appear that the d here is acting, he says, t protect him or to accuse >> can i just ask a technica question so let's just say these were charges and misdemeanor. it seems like a slam dunk. these are all just business -- >> ...

Defraud and you committed in other crime. so, as andrew was right, the new york state election law, the federal campaign law that's, if that was all it was based on, then it really makes it a really difficult case but the tax fraud and the am false statements, that makes it, i'm not going to say a roc solid case, but you ca understand why this case was presented and why the da's office believes they have proo beyond a reasonable doubt. and if the jury can believe, okay, forget the new york stat election law but tax fraud and those fals statements by ami. >> and on the tax fraud issue, again, w...

>> and the cover-up. i'm sorry. someone close to the investigation told me last wee that it is not about what he did out of the election is different the voters it is about the cover-up he di from inside the oval office. -- sign from inside the oval. >> every allegedly falsified business record described in the indictment and used as a basis of a charge happens whil he is in - your of his presidency >> one more legal point that heel we all know - you can't have a corporation come ran to a bus, you can't have corporation just give ten k to you in public period full stop you >> can't donate wate...

Trump or capital trump, yo know how trump org is. we went rogue. well, that's not a thing the wanted to do they didn't do a conspiracy. they didn't do a ton of trum org. and other prosecutors are minus, there is this great phrase, highlighted it in the moment w got this news today, tax purposes and you mentioned it earlier rachel, there's a lot of evidence all around donald trump that they habitually intend to lie. the fact that sometimes thos laws don't reach the governing tax authority may not bail him out or be all that sympathetic a sounding argument to a new york jury. >> right, in this c...

Have it kind of taint all th other ones but if you have like fou really good options, lay the all out. the defense is entitled, t make motions, and you neve know what a judge is going t do, that's the reason why yo lay out your strongest ones. and here, there are just too many options that i'm sure whe the defense looked at this they were actually thinkin this is more than we sort of bargained for. >> catherine, let me just as you to expand on what andrew has said there especially his point about how you don't necessarily have t charge the crime that brough this up to a felony, you jus have to...