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Help for the president to minimize the situation and say it's much better than what they have or for vice president pence to say they are all being well treated when your own -- look at the condition there is a master. >> let me say a couple things that are facts. not every facility is the same. chris: but i'm talking at once. >> and i'm talking the one the media who are on the same trip completely ignored in other coverage. they are completely ignoring the brave border patrol -- i would say that facility was meant to be -- this is what i was briefed on it was meant to be a 72 hour holding fac...

Without separating families and i know first-hand, my boss and now president has been told ahead of last year's zero- tolerance policy by people no longer in the administration that theol net effect of that would have been separating children from their parents while the parent claims you're being adjudicated the idea is to protect the child. >> yeah, but i'm not talking about that. >> but i'm talking about all of it. >> i'm talking about the possibility of parents in the country illegally being separated from their children. >> so i was briefed yesterday by officials on i.c.e. and i will tell...

President penn saw and said it's rough is not acceptable. congress has provided money and the money should be used before this happens which is what senior d just staff recommended and we should be doing more to shore up the governments of the northern triangle and that was what vice president pencils for a couple years ago so the push factor is reduced and be helping mexico not just forcing mexico but helping mexico. police of the southern border the flow of immigrants and there are a lot of things we could do better. let's do them and enforce the law and have a secure border. >> support the ...

Law without separating children, young children from their parents. i'm against separating children from their mothers in the womb and those outside the womb. chris: i want to get back what you raise which is the trip to the border with vice president pence on friday, 11 days ago. president trump seem to play down the problems that the detention centers that want to put up his tweet. how would you describe the conditions you saw on friday at the detention centers? connect two things. i was glad to be the trip you can't do the same vantage point a letter there. first we went to [inaudible] proc...

Overcrowding we had two senators there and i was there with seven republican senators, lindsey graham chairman of the judiciary committee organized it and he invited all. chris: i got to move your long black note he invited everybody but no democrats came. chris: what's your view? >> here's my view of what i saw. i saw lots of supplies. diapers and food and endless supplies of water and two of the senators spanish fluently and spoke with them the migrants. they won't be there for long because under law we can't hold them and i think nobody understands tens of thousands of uac's unaccompanied c...