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The whole idea of some of there being me right out there a ride out there about this case. you are correct about that. >> in fact, here's what president obama said in the rose garden on september 12. do not know act of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter the character, or eclipse the values that we stand for. today we mourn for more american to represent the very best of the united states of america. reporter: the president, that day, did not tell the american people that he had told us that it was an act of terror and candy told cnn from her own network that she was...

You to get your stories straight, this cover-up you wanted to have which was mob violence inspired by mohammed video which the president apologized in initial statement. >> the final thoughts are your minutesing words on terror. i agree with our very own cal thomas, let's have ex-presidents moderate the debate. jon: interesting. ellen ratner, and jim pinkerton, thank you. jenna: we have candidates scoring points and giving zingers, but are we getting the big picture how the presidency of either man would look like? what our country would look like over the next four years. we're going to ask t...

Rice was jumping out in front to pretend like she knew the facts when the facts were still developing. jenna: again, we're watching over a couple of weeks of this story developing, rick. are we hearing enough from either candidate on the way forward when it comes to libya, when it comes to engaging terrorists, when it comes to our national security? i know we have a debate coming up but up until this point do we know enough from either side? >> well i think the onus is on the president of the united states to come clean on what happened in libya. he is clearly playing semantics with the word y...

Specifically asked about the difference and he is asked, did you call this a terrorist act? and he says, no. he draws the distinction, that we didn't call it a terrorist act even though we mentioned the word terror later on. this is jay carney's words on september 20th. now we have the president trying to backtrack, saying i did call it a terrorist attack. if the president really called this the terrorist act and susan rice and president himself in speeches at the u.n. and on "the view" and other places, including jay carney on september 20th, eight days after the fact, didn't get that memo. s...

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