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Other than fox. with me is brian stelter. it is interesting how they interpreted this. >> incredible and really disappointing for the people who work at fox who are still reality based, who still want this channel to be, you know, as accurate as possible. there's a difference between confident and conspiratorial. there's a difference between supporting trump's agenda and lavishly, blindly believing whatever he says. but unfortunately that gets lost too often in this coverage on fox. it's as if all nuance is lost and nonsense wins out. we're seeing that vividly this week. >> there is this echo ...

Other than fox. with me is brian stelter. it is interesting how they interpreted this. >> incredible and really disappointing for the people who work at fox who are still reality based, who still want this channel to be as accurate as possible. there's a difference between confident and conspiratorial. there's a difference between supporting trump's agenda and lavishly, blindly believing whatever he said. it's as if all nuance is lost and nonsense wins out. we're seeing that vividly this week. >> there is this echo chamber that's been talked about a lot. the president watching fox, the preside...

Is a remarkable thing for these families to be willing to talk to reporters and to have their stories told and to okay their physicians and lawyers to tell their stories to a national audience. if you think about what their families are facing, they're being told get out of the country or we will forcibly deport you, and if you do either of those things, you'll be killing your child. imagine the lengths to which any family would go to avoid facing that, to be ordered to kill their kid, right, and so the fact that these families are such, willing to go public with it rather than immediately goi...

To reporters and to have their stories told and to okay their physicians and lawyers to tell their stories to a national audience. if you think about what their families are facing, they're being told get out of the country or we will forcibly deport you, and if you do either of those things, you'll be killing your child. imagine the lengths to which any family would go to avoid facing that, to be ordered to kill their kid, right, and so the fact that these families are such, willing to go public with it rather than immediately going into hiding, and whatever else they could to evade the circu...

Certainly beyond harassment. it's a very ugly picture and culture that rue pert murdock has created. the murdock sons could have come in and cleaned out after ailes. they promoted people. >> explain who bill schein was. >> he was a longtime confident of o'reilly. and he was promoted to fox president last august. and people said -- people who work at fox had been very specific. he quieted us. he told us to take the buyout. he told us not to go after roger ails, and they promoted him. they still have a large culture promise. >> the people they're promoting for these prime time shows have similar...