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What's involved? what does it take to get going? things like that. so i took more interest in him then too because of that. he seemed to have a very keen interest in business and how to start one up. >> okay. did that friendship progress? are we now talking about the 2002, '3, '4 period of time in. >> yes, it did. we did things more socially. we would go out to lunch or to dinner and about that time a friend, a mutual friend was interested in getting into politics and the city of lake mary and my husband and i were helping him on his campaign and mr. zimmerman was also

Did you recall approximately when that first conversation occurred? >> well -- >> i'll preface it with this. we ask a question doesn't suggest it has to be answered. >> yeah, i don't know. >> if you don't know, that's okay, give us the year the season. >> let's take a quick break and resume our coverage in a minute. this is le anne bengals then, another friend of george zimmerman testifying presumably about his character. let's listen in, take a quick break, though. we'll be right back.