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Sworn into office, he took a baton in which an economy was shrinking at the highest rate since the great depression, 800,000 americans were losing their johns. today, there's over 4 million private sector jobs that were created on his watch, more on his watch in the first term than all of under two terms of george bush. and yes it is not moving fast enough but i do believe the american people don't want to go back to the very policies that created the economic slowdown. >> let me ask you on one of the attacks against president obama that you dealt with when you worked in the clinton white hous...

Know the unions' birthplace was in wisconsin? >> they had sweetheart deals and control of work rules and finally a governor stood up and said stop in the state that's so progressive, that's the birth of the public sector unions was wisconsin in 1959. and this is the beginning of their decline. he stood up and they got whooped. >> they get whooped. meanwhile, a lot of people are looking forward to november. ok, what as we look at the tea leaves for the residual tea leaves for last night, what can we gleam from that? there are a number of republicans who say well, this is pretty good for mitt ro...

Worked longer than 8 hour days. which brings me to my final point. to use extortions to excuse apple and the rest of electronic manufacturers for the conditions in china that make their products. forget daisy even exists. the fact remains incredibly harsh. workers have essentially no rights and violations are comment. there's ample documentation of underage workers, though they are quite a bit rare. there's ample documentation for unsafe working conditions. a chemical plant explosion just last month killed 25 people. most importantly, to focus on the most dramatic instances also loses the poin...

Jobs are going to muncie, indiana. >> why? because of this new thing that just passed? >> in large part, yes. that's exactly right. is this the start of a flood? you make your state more attractive to manufacturers? you don't keep unions out but restrict their activities and pull in the jobs. that's the theory. that's happening now. those canadian jobs will almost certainly land up in muncie, indiana, right to work state. >> why are they closing the plant in canada? >> they could not come to an agreement with the union on wages, pensions, benefits but i think more importantly, it's flexibility...

>> chris: you say this is not about the unions. this is about balancing the budget but the opposition says this is about union busting. so let's take a look at what is in your plan. because beyond making public workers pay more for benefits. it would allow unions to negotiate only over wages, not benefits or work rules. state would no longer collect union dues and unions would have to win an election every year to keep representing workers. isn't that union busting? >> no, absolutely not. our believe is that we will ask more for a healthcare and pension contribution which is by the way a very ...