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Person in the white house. he went to harvard, his father worked with the bush administration, worked on the hill for multiple senators. he's someone who in this white house was viewed extremely highly as someone who kept the trains on the tracks, and so it is -- you know, for a lot of folks in the white house, it's unsettling to find this, but it's important to know, you know, abusers do not always look like what you think abusers look like, and that's why it's important to not allow that to be the rationale for just dismissing allegations out of turn. i think a lot of people at the white hou...

Attacked the media for reporting these accusations, and seemed to attack the ex-wives. it is incredibly discouraging to see a vile tike a decent man. shame on any publication that would print this and shame on the morally bankrupt character assassin that's would attempt to sully a man's good nail. he has amended. he wrote, i am heart broken by today's allegations. this is today. i do not know the details of rob's personal life and any form of domestic violence is abhorrent. i am perplexed by the first statement. why issue that first statement? >> i am very glad he amended his statement. in the...

That complicated back then. i think we should have known. and there was a certain -- you know, in your work setting, but certainly in work settings -- a newspaper i worked at before "the post" and early days at "the post," there were men who would say things that we would now consider wildly inappropriate. but in today's context -- okay, we would say that was not good, but we would put it in the prior context. and there are some things we just -- the context hasn't changed, right? so i think we can make those distinctions. we just have to get the stories out and we have to talk about it, and i...

Even as a guest. i know they brought him back last month and they regret doing that. he's not going to be back on that network. >> that's only now. he was on last month and all these allegations -- there hadn't been a $32 million payout. it was, what, more than i guess $10 million -- >> they renewed his contract knowing he struck this deal. >> that's right. >> did they know the amount he paid? the 32 million? >> they say they didn't know the amount but i don't know if they didn't want to know. look the other way and not find out what was in the closet. >> i had this debate with people this wee...

Didn't want to know. >> i had this debate with people this weekend. do you think this is a sea change in the culture in terms of how men interact with women in a work setting? >> i would hope so because it seems like there's a play book that these powerful men have been able to use every time. first sterngs smear the victim, hide behind legal action and last step is present yourself as the victim to the media. look all i've been tlucht that happens every single time. the thing that boggles my mind is how could fox as a business decision decided to keep renewing this guy's contract knowing so m...