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Social security. for workers comp. what a great way to crack down on demand for undocumented and actually put some money back into the coffers for things like social security. >> shannon: when we talk about middle ground on these issues, we know there are many issues where there is no agreement because the president came out with his list like the so-called dreamers. but here are all the other things that we want. chuck and nancy -- as they are affectionately called, they said this is a complete nonstarter. there's no way. now we have her on abc talking about a reign of terror. how does this g...

Happen as far as cracking down on on accompanied minors for example. that's pretty inflammatory language but i think that's where the reign of terror is coming in. we need to take the rhetoric aside and focus on the areas that we can agree on. if we really do care, there are deadlines in place. we need to work together to figure out the places where we can come together and build upon that. >> shannon: when you talk about e-verify, this is a system that would require employers to make sure employees are legit. >> anyone can agree on that. at the end of the day, employers, they are the ones cre...

Happen as far as cracking down on on accompanied minors for example. that's pretty inflammatory language but i think that's where the reign of terror is coming in. we need to take the rhetoric aside and focus on the areas that we can agree on. if we really do care, there are deadlines in place. we need to work together to figure out the places where we can come together and build upon that. >> shannon: when you talk about e-verify, this is a system that would require employers to make sure employees are legit. >> anyone can agree on that. at the end of the day, employers, they are the ones cre...

On on accompanied minors for example. that's pretty inflammatory language but i think that's where the reign of terror is coming in. we need to take the rhetoric aside and focus on the areas that we can agree on. if we really do care, there are deadlines in place. we need to work together to figure out the places where we can come together and build upon that. >> shannon: when you talk about e-verify, this is a system that would require employers to make sure employees are legit. >> anyone can agree on that. at the end of the day, employers, they are the ones creating the demand for undocument...

Problem. the wage gap is the problem. there are other things that factor in. >> and he's correct on that. there are other things. but illegal immigration does effect it. i couldn't compete with companies that hired illegal immigrants that didn't pay taxes and workers comp. so you either hire illegals or lower the wages of your employees. . but he is right. it isn't all illegal immigration. i would agree with him on that. our federal. government has done a terrible job of keeping jobs in this country. i blame trade agreements we got into for allowing our manufacturers to promote him to leave th...