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To me about two hours ago now. it is pretty clear that at times like this the police, their responsibility primarily is to ensure the safety of the public. we have seen that the course of our live coverage tonight. police pushing back members of the public. moving back out and actually i just want to break in for a second and bring you this. theresa may, the prime minister. she is on her way back to london. she has said the terrible incident is being treated in her words as a potential act of terrorism. that confirming which we heard from a correspondent mark white a little earlier today. that...

What else have you learned? >> the latest intelligence, they are working off of in cooperation with the british is that salman abedi did travel to syria. they believe he went to syria in the month before the attack and he most likely received training and support there from isis. this is the intelligence they're working off of at this hour. are they trying to get it all perfectly nailed down? yes. but that is what the working assumption is now based on the intelligence they have. that in the month before the manchester attack, he traveled to syria. this is going to raise serious questions why ...

And there's a little breakmanship, do we want to go in and grab them or see what they're going to do? and it's a risk you really have to take sometimes. >> and carrying on this working assumption a law enforcement official says it was probably a suicide bomber, the question has to be was he homegrown, did he come in from somewhere else? i mean these are important questions for law enforcement and how you conduct the investigation going forward. >> that's right. and for years we've been saying let's take the lone wolf out of our jargon. even if this was not the case because this is more sophist...

>> nsa didn't do this. it asked the white house if it wanted this stuff the white house didn't object it looks fast this information was used by the white house to win congressional votes on the fraudulent iran deal in december 2015. steve: where was the outcry then, fred? >> i don't know. the "wall street journal" had a great article in 2015. i wrote on it a great piece by my friend lee smith who lays it out again. it's an outrage. steve: speaking of the tablet article he wrote from inside the white house somebody said we began to notice the white house was responding immediately sometimes wi...

And there was panic." tass, the russian state news agency, spoke to somebody who was on the train who was hit by the explosion, and he said that in the metro car, everyone expected dead. as people were taking us out, everybody was covered in blood. so, absolutely horrific scenes in this, russia's second biggest city, today, kate. >> and honestly, still early moments here, a lot still to be known, as you mentioned, matthew. so, paul, no claim of responsibility yet. this is all happening in realtime and still playing out. what do you believe is the universe of possibility here? what's your gut t...