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The dozen stupak people who are upset with the senate bill and the lack of restrictions they think on public expenditures, taxpayer money going for abortions, then they'll do it, if they need the votes and this will be enough to do it. >> and another key concern for them are the fiscal issues. you had representative paul ryan on with his chart today to talk about it on fox news sunday and he and his democratic counterpart clearly disagreed on how this is gonna play out fiscally. >> the congressional budget office numbers and this is the nonpartisan agency, and these are the umpires, the score ...

Insurance, if americans don't have government acceptable health care, they'll have to pay a fine, of $2250. or 2% of their income, the irs can collect their income tax rebates, and conduct audits. we'll see a very heavy hand of government with the irs, in all 300 million americans' lives and every private employer. >> and that will be one of the realities here, too. everybody has to have health insurance whether you want it or not and if you don't have it, the irs will come knocking on your door, right. >> not come knocking on your door. the same way you fill out a schedule if you have a mortg...

That the white house doesn't believe such an executive order is needed. that's all the white house will say publically. i can tell you from my sources on capitol hill and those around this issue, this conversation is continuing, and there are some in the democratic leadership ranks who believe an executive order from the president might be necessary to push the final vote count over 216. the president will only sign one if in fact that's the case. if the white house can get this vote, get 216 votes without it, that's the preferred course. stay tuned. >> major, can you tell us anything about th...

That way for the last 3-4 days but is still as you said, in the intro, a bit of cliff hanger. >> martha: boy, it is ever, major and what is the final argument, and final message, if anything, the president would be wanting to get out to seal the deal. >> you heard it yesterday when he spoke to the house democratic caucus and its leadership and senate majority leader harry reid on the hill. he said if you believe the status quo is better than the bill, you go ahead and vote against it. that is a message to every house democrat who is considering voting no, if you think everything i have done fo...

Of staff or the president for any issue before the process on the vote, the rule, the senate bill or the fixed legislation, the president or his top aides will be ready, willing and able to address the issues. my guess and my sense of it is, the big issue is about the executive order, sit necessary, is it not, and does it have to be released, does the white house have to acknowledge it before the votes go up on the board in order to get the 216 magic number. all that is in play. >> thank you. working it for us 24/7, thank you, major. >> reporter: thank you. >> and the fiscal price tag of this ...