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In this case, what would be the working model? how would you approach that question? >> well, first of all, there may not be a working model that is consistent with this. again, i go back to the idea that you have to really peel it back to the individual once a certain individual is identified. but we are putting the cart before the horse with that. again, you look at what we know right now. one of the most stunning things, i think we have to consider is you have 237 people on that airplane. two more including the flight crew. >> pilots. >> how could 237 people consistently and completely beco...

Billion. similar cuts, what you will end up doing is what you have in great britain which isable economy which can't grow. we have unemployment that is now higher than it has been in 52 years. it's almost 9% in the uk. inflation is also going up, and manufacturing it is going down. there are few jobs. and there you have it. well done, paul ryan. >> it's 0 not just england either. >> spain's horrendous. >> gdp in greece, portugal, italy and the netherlands where the pm just resigned amid proposed austerity measures. this doesn't seem to be a very good working model and yet the debate continues ...

Ever before is that a company's purpose and the leaders of the company have a far greater purpose than just making a profit. and in saying that, i believe very strongly -- and i think starbucks is a working model as a result of this. you can make sustainable profits by doing the right thing. and the right thing is doing everything you can to devote the same level of energy and commitment to those people being left behind. >> how would you advise the heads of the big and the small wall street firms right now? you say it's all about this ethos and the communication. there is clearly the biggest ...

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