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>> you think so? >> security that they don't want to let him call it a wall. just a bit more of what we currently have or some technological improvements, e-verify, that's a good compromise. >> sees video of the vice president. definitely a working weekend to say the least in washington right now of the vice president walking out after a meeting with congressional leaders all day as he has been all weekend alongside him jared kushner and, of course, secretary nielsen as well. julie, give me your thoughts on what we heard from the president on the south lawn? >> interesting. to beth's point. de...

Nancy pelosi has to deal with right now. the question is, is this group that she's dealing with in 2018, 2019, is it different than the group she dealt with in 2007? heretofore, this takes away the narrative when they have the comments from rasheeda talib, the freshman democrat from michigan. >> trace: i want to take you forward, if i can. we're talking about a working weekend. the president talking about getting the government back up and running here. is there an appetite on the democrats to maybe strike some middle ground or at least for the time being, do they stand where they are? >> not ...

We're all on the same path in terms of wanting to get government open. we're going to be meeting, i have designated a group and we're going to be meeting over the weekend to determine what we're going to do about the border. >> now, one of the other big questions, trace, had to do with the length of this possible shut down. i think if you talked to government employees, those impacted by this shut down, to say nothing of lawmakers on capitol hill, the real concern here in washington is it seems like this could go on for quite some time. in fact, nancy pelosi suggested in the meeting in the sit...

Weekend. >> having to do with daca, having to do with other things. he's talking about the dreamers there. that seems to be one of these things that the president is talking about. could be a grand bargaining. i will deal with you when it comes the dreamers and let them stay for a certain amount of time. maybe nancy pelosi and the democrats say this could be a good bargaining chip. >> the president talked about that in the context of the supreme court overturning the stay of the judge by the ninth circuit. once that happens and his proposal to end protection for daca as it was set up by presid...

Have to deal with it all at once. i think not only are they fighting about the wall, they're fighting now about whether to reopen most of the agencies that are closed. yeah, staffers will meet over the weekend, but i don't think anything will get accomplished. i go back to the president -- think of what happens in a meeting where the president says, i'm prepared to close the government for months or even a year. that doesn't sound like a good meeting. >> it's interesting though, even though nancy pelosi says look, no money for the wall and the president is sticking to his $5.6 billion number. ...