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What form that would take, and the legal standard as well, for when a president could be interviewed essentially. you have the legal team looking at things like location, duration and topics. possible compromises to written responses versus an actual formal in person sitdown. i will leave it to carol to discuss the legal implications of some of these. and the likelihood that the special council ace team would agree to something that is not in person. we know for a period of weeks, they met with the president's legal team in december. and these discussions ongoing outside council and the presid...

We're potentially watching obstruction by twitter. >> this investigation is still going regardless of what the president's lawyers said in the past that it would be done by thanksgiving and christmas. still one of the president's attorneys is saying he is so confident the probe will end soon. would mueller potentially clear the president before formally wrapping up his investigation? is there any indication that can happen? >> i don't think it will happen anytime soon. i don't think that mccabe is immune from criticism. there is an e-mail out there where apparently he may have been discussing ...

Reporting. now i want to bring in david rhode and michael zeldin who was the former special assistant and john dean, former nixon white house counsel. thank you all for coming on. david, i'm going to start with you. what information could kushner have regarding flynn, and why would mueller's team -- what would they want to find out from them? >> flynn is so interesting because he had the most interactions with russia. he was the one attending the dinner with putin before the campaign. and it is, pam's essentially right, this is more and more pressure on flynn, you know, repeated contacts with ...

>> i don't -- i mean, i ten he tried to dismiss george as a copy boy. so there are consistent evidences he was not a copy boy. >> interesting stuff. let's turn to our leadoff panel on a friday night. former chief of staff at cia and pentagon and a national security analyst. nbc national security reporter and bureau chief for the washington post and a political analyst. what would mueller's team have to talk to hope hicks about over two days? i hasten to add borrowing the title of clark clifford's tone, she was present at the creation. >> she knows just about everything the president has

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