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Should just say, there were secret police. during nelson mandela's imprisonment, it was illegal to have a picture of him, right? these are -- >> it's all true, chris. >> it couldn't put it in a newspaper. they couldn't put his face or name in a newspaper. >> a lot of us forget that the united states government and many western governments supported white south africa. and in fact, mandela never got off the terrorist list until 2008. and he was elected in 2004, we -- >> 1994. >> 1994, rather! so this is a situation where the united states was on the wrong side, for many, many years. and so what...

Supported white south africa. and in fact, mandela never got off the terrorist list until 2008. and he was elected in 2004, we -- >> 1994. >> 1994, rather! so this is a situation where the united states was on the wrong side, for many, many years. and so what they were up against was a whole world of privilege, that didn't want change, because people made so much money under apartheid. it was very, very profitable. and the exploitation of people there led to a system and a status quo that wouldn't end by itself, unless it was pushed, and the people of the world pushed it. >> we had this -- con...

Credibility, michael, on this issue. can she recover? >> oh, sure. if we -- we don't have enough time to talk about some stupid thing that some congressman is saying every single day. the point is not that this destroys her credibility, it just helps the loss of momentum that is already there. i think the loss of momentum has to do with the fact that the people that are pushing and pushing and pushing the new regulations really have no idea what they're talking about in terms of actually making the situation better. i don't think most americans believe that limiting the number of bullets that ...

Wide receiver but one that is likely to lead your team in domestic run-ins and police run-ins and allegations like this as much as he is touchdowns and receptions and that's the latest in a string of incidents throughout his career. >> glad you mention that had because, first, i want to show you, photos that appeared in "essence" magazine after the couple got married. the magazine described a big lavish wedding and we have to point out that this is the couple's first time in this position, is it? >> yeah, yeah, it is. they had an incident in march 2009. there was a misdemeanor battery charge i...

Domestic abuse allegations for brandon marshall, tremendously talented wide receiver, star wide receiver but one that is likely to lead your team in domestic run-ins and police run-ins an allegations like this as much as he is touchdowns and receptions and that's the latest in a string of incidents throughout his career. >> glad you mention that had because, first, i want to show you, photos that appeared in "essence" magazine after the couple got married. the magazine described a big lavish wedding and we have to point out that this is the couple's first time in this position, is it? >> yeah,...