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So there has to be a discussion about the future of it anyway. jon: wouldn't exist, meaning it is going bankrupt? >> that's correct. and they would, it would then force a discussion on the future of medicare in any case. what they try to say is that they, under their proposal, they would preserve medicare. and yet they say president obama with obamacare has taken $700 billion out of it. jon: well, and that is the question. i mean president obama hasn't really put forward a plan of his own, has he, to shore up medicare? >> that's right. but what republican strategists will tell you in the past,...

>> well, look, you do have the secretary of defense. you do have the secretary of state. the president and the vice president. but here is the very crucial problem, add any moment as we all know, there can be a crisis, a national security crisis with north korea, with russia, with iran. and how are you going to manage that crisis? how is the white house going to quickly and efficiently get all of the information, all of the options and crisis to the president if you don't have a national security adviser. so make no mistake, this is absolutely critical. otherwise the job wouldn't exist, right?...