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Trump tower and listen in on talks at mar-a-lago. is there a feeling if he did that as the leader of this business why wouldn't he be recording people at the white house? >> you know, there's sort of a long and interesting history about who records what in the white house and what is required and what is protect under executive privilege. i think the jury likes so much about president trump and specifically in connection with the russians, the jury is still out. i was struck particularly by how this is really a good week for the russians. i mean they got into the oval office. sergei lavrov was...

President trump didn't believe what president obama said. it may have been that what president obama said wasn't accurate. i don't know. >> wasn't he get -- wouldn't he be privy to classified information from president obama and from sally yates and from the justice department? >> he being flynn? >> no, he being president-elect trump. he was getting classified briefings at the time. wouldn't they have shown in this information? >> i don't know, it depends on whether it's information or not, whether it's accurate. i don't think on the outside here we have any way of knowing those things are tru...

Criminal law, is it not? >> to not disclose payments, yes, but i'm not speaking to his specific conduct, just generally that it is, yes. >> if michael flynn is prosecuted for any of these crimes, isn't it possible that the vice president of the united states might be a witness? >> i guess it would depend on the crime. >> if it were a false statement to the fbi about his conversations with the russians, wouldn't he potentially be called as a witness to corroborate that false statement in the. >> certainly that's possible, but i'd be speculating how such a criminal prosecution would come togethe...

>> so, michael, you know donald trump well. what's your best guess as to why the president didn't want to attend? he has attended as a candidates he attended as "celebrity apprentice" star. why wouldn't he attend as sitting president? >> well, the first thing that comes to mind for me is that you have to have a sense of humor to attend that event. he's not a guy who has a good sense of humor. what he does is ridicule other people. if you remember, when he appeared at the al smith dinner, that's an event where people are supposed to make fun of themselves, and what he did mostly was make fun of...

Binn one reason why they died and later we're told another. which is the truth? it's interesting that it's happening in our own story. why we can't get a straight story here in the united states. >> you have people in the u.s. answers here in the united states. clint, you've been speaking out here, you testified about this, you are concerned about your own safety, in talking about this so openly and bluntly? >> i'm not worried about my physical safety, i have dealt with this in the counter terrorism circles, when you're dealing with this, there's always a mild chance of risk. we have seen russ...