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Wrong doing by the fbi and department of justice, that's incredibly serious. but if there is an investigation why wouldn't one of the first steps before going public be to bring the fbi leadership, including director wray or anybody who may have done something wrong, in front of the committee, the house intelligence committee and grill them? wouldn't that be the next step rather than releasing a memo? >> well, first of all, the director, in my opinion, has not done anything wrong. it's not about him. but it is about several other people in key positions in the department, in the federal bureau...

Hearings, trump never actually asked him about this, that the conversation quickly moved to the flynn investigation and to other matters when the sort of existential threat that's confronting the president is the vulnerability of our democratic system of governance -- >> our country. >> -- and the fbi is looking into that, and trump didn't seem all that interested in discussing it with comey. and it is an existential threat. yes, there is no evidence of votes altered directly by the russians, but that doesn't mean that they couldn't have altered votes. there is immense vulnerability to our ele...

We need to do. >> so, is there too much focus, congressman, on social issues in the democratic party and not enough on economic? >> well, those issues are very important, and i don't think we should yield any ground at all on those issues because they're vital to our society when you're talking about refugees, you're talking about a woman's right to choose, when you're talking about voting rights. these are -- immigration reform. these are really important, but when you're going to be a national party, you need to have a national message. and what's the thing that binds all those groups togeth...

Saying even the president himself has called this legislation mean. imagine how effective that is in a district where this bill already is pulling in the 20s. -- polling in the 20s. it seems even with all that, and jay, correct me if i'm wrong, it seems like this thing is going to pass because of inertia. no one wants to be the one to stop the repeal and replace. they want to pass the buck. the house passed it to the senate. the senate probably wants to get it out of its chamber. is it possible it passes because no one wants to be the lawmaker to stand in the way of repeal and replace? >> that...

That this will make people think that his election results are not, you know, not accurate, and so he doesn't want to talk about russia because it makes him feel like people are undermining his win. and yet, he's overlooking, he's overlooking the threat to this country. can you talk about the magnitude of how potentially catastrophic it would be if our elections were hacked, were tampered with, if they were successful next time? >> you're exactly right. and i think -- there really seems to be two explanations, possibly, for his refusal to fully engage the question, and one -- and to continue t...