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They act like they're bad boys and so hard and stuff. they want to be safe. they want organization, that type of thing. >> safety isn't the only concern inside pendleton. education and counseling is also mandatory for release. >> people are having their own problems. this is the time we're going to talk about -- >> across the yard, counselor stephanie roberts is letting offenders in unit d-9 vent. >> because i know you all have issues you'd like to talk about. trust me. i'm your counselor, i know. because you always come running to me. this is our time to get them out. a lot of these kids have...

What did you hit him with? >> maybe a board. >> maybe a board? did you hit him with a board or you didn't hit him with a board, alvin? >> i don't know. >> what they failed to see is he doesn't have any memories of doing the things that they're accusing him of doing, that he then caves in ultimately and passively accepts. and that's why he's using that language. >> dr. hayes-hammer discovered that alvin's iq was 74 and he had dropped out of school in the ninth grade. >> you have many people with low iqs who have had rap sheets as long as my arm. alvin did not. so he was very naive to what was g...

The murder of kate stein lee by an illegal immigrant who had been deported five times is drawing attention and exposing gaps in our border security. he is not alone. there are many others with long rap sheets who are still on the lamb. let's see if we can't help the fbi running some of those guys down. joining us now former assistant director of the fbi ron ho is -- hoscow. it seems some of the guys who are out on the lam are bad news. >> urbina is wanted for raping and beating a chicago woman. he gets bond and within six

Heard back from the fbi that this could have been avoided. should that be extended or should there be some change in protocol there? >> there could be a change. in this case, i think the purchase was attempted on a saturday, so you're trying to contact records departments to get rap sheets and other information, that if it's not automated by that county or that city to be accessible by the federal government, by the fbi in this case, it makes it more difficult. maybe you need to say three business days or five business days for a record check like this to go through. >> some changes possibly c...

Many issues when it comes to law enforcement especially someone who has been in the public eye and who is infamous. i spoke to someone who was deeply involved in the george zimmerman case and that person said to me she said he should probably leave the country or at least leave the state of florida. i think that would be good advice. the best advice anyone would have for george zimmerman is just to stay out of the public eye. and he probably should not be carrying a gun at this point. >> what do you think about that sunny? what is your reaction? zimmerman was acquitted in the trayvon martin de...