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College. but none of these are reasons to pursue what chairman schiff has called a wrenching process for the nation. in fact, democrats rejected that process emphatically in three specific votes. in december of 2017 democrats overwhelmingly voted against pursuing articles of impeachment including the speaker and myself. we did so again in 2018 with over 60% of the democrats rejecting pursuing articles of impeachment. and again just months ago in july of 2019 60% of the democrats said no to pursuing

When it looked like we were moving to impeachment as a country. and i just -- i went around it feld felt like i h felt like i had been punched in the gut, not because i didn't believe we needed to move in the direction of an impeachment inquire, i but because i remember the clinton impeachment, i remember voting for two of the four articles. i remember thinking after the supreme court and the arkansas supreme court had stripped him of his law license because of perjury, at that point i thought, okay, that's fine. it still stuck with me, though, for 20 years because it is such a wrenching proce...

What corroborate what we have heard so we have a comfort level of what we have to do. >> we were talking before and i talked to mika about this when it looked like we were moving to impeachment as a country. and i just -- i went around and it felt like i had been punched in the gut. not because i didn't believe that we didn't need to move in the direction of an inquiry, but because i remember the clinton impeachment, i remember voting for two of the four articles. i remember thinking after the supreme court and the arkansas supreme court had stripped him of his law license because of perjury, ...

>> okay. >> it's just -- >> it's absolutely. it's what they used to tell me just because you repeat it does not make it right or true. >> okay. it seems other federal officials lost their jobs in the last few hours. this one less public. the acting head of immigration customs and enforcement was replaced. what do we read into that? apparently thomas hermann is the new acting head and believed to be more sympathetic to the administration's hard line stance. >> the trump administration is trying to get ahold of the government. they're proposing significant cant shifts in policy on many, many fro...

Do you think, in order to heal this nation after this wrenching process, that president-elect trump should take this issue head-on and reach out and address individuals who might actually be scared in their own country? >> well, i think, obviously, i maybe disagree with the characterization that you laid on the table here. if you look at donald trump's first speech after knowing that he was going to be president-elect of the united states, you saw at 2:30 in the morning this is a person who gave a conciliatory, measured, very appropriate, i think extremely impressive, speech about coming toget...