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There could be other transcripts or memorandums that have been spirited away. >> one of the reasons i wanted to ask you about this specifically, i was intrigued by some other "washington post" reporting from late last night that when it comes to that super secret server that's disconnected from all networks that's a stand-alone unit, that's supposed to be set aside for the most sort of secret information in the government intelligence programs that are covert action stuff, stuff that really has to be protected, when it comes to putting stuff onto that server, a senior white house official maki...

Most sort of secret information in the government intelligence programs that are covert action stuff, stuff that really has to be protected, when it comes to putting stuff onto that server a senior white house official making a decision to do that, a, would have needed access to be able to do it, would have had to be the kind of person allowed to access that server, but according to the post they would need to make a formal written request in order to make a transfer of a document from a more normal, less-secure server into that super top-secret one. let me ask if you believe that's true, that...

Nielt anything, which a really bad strategy when you're being asked something under oath under penalty of perjury and there's a written record that will show that you're lying. but at the same time there's a certain point at which you're staring down the barrel of the prosecutor is pointing at you where you just go whoa. i'm out of the spin machine, i'm going through the washer now. i'm going to get clean and he didn't come clean and you have to wonder why. >> that's a great way of putting it. we'll find out more as this goes on. thank you both. it has been just over two days since president...

Trickster and so he's used to manipulation. he's used to lying. he himself has said nevered a nielt anything, which a really bad strategy when you're being asked something under oath under penalty of perjury and there's a written record that will show that you're lying. but at the same time there's a certain point at which you're staring down the barrel of the prosecutor is pointing at you where you just go whoa. i'm out of the spin machine, i'm going through the washer now. i'm going to get clean and he didn't come clean and you have to wonder why. >> that's a great way of putting it. we'll f...

Stone threatened him into doing it stone made the sort of "godfather" reference. stone is like proctor from "power." he's been coordinating all of these different illegal activities telling this person to lie finding this bit of information. bringing this contact here and there. and always talking to the people at the top but just like proctor, at some point you're going to get busted there is no way you can have this many deals going on and not end up having some sort of written record of it that's eventually what's going to catch stone he can front and beat his chest and claim, hey, i'm not ...