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Elections? >> not to my understanding. i don't think it's for me to say whether the conversation was an effort to obstruct are. i took it as concerning, but that is a conclusion i'm sure the special counsel will work towards to understand the intention there and whether that is an offense. >> what was it about that meeting that led you to determine that you needed to start putting down a written record? >> a combination of things. i think the circumstances, the subject matter and the person i was interacting with. and then the nature of the person. i was honestly concerned that he might lie ab...

Now, you've had extensive experience at the department of justice and at the f.b.i. you've worked under presidents of both parties. what was it about that meeting that led you to determine that you needed to start putting down a written record? >> a combination of things. i think the circumstances, the subject matter, and the person i was interacting with. circumstances first, i was alone with the president of the united states, or the president-elect, soon to be president. the subject matter i was talking about relate to the president-elect personally and then the nature of the person. i was ...

Briefing, you felt compelled to document that situation. you actually documented it as soon as you got into the car. now, you've had extensive experience at the department of justice and at the fbi, you've worked on the president os of both parties, what was it about that meeting that led you to determine that you needed to start putting down a written record? >> a combination of thing. i think the circumstances, the subject matter and the person i was interacting with. first i was alone with the president of the united states, the president-elect, soon to be president. the subject matter, i w...

Important statement you just made. then, unlike your dealings with presidents of either parties in your past experience, in every subsequent meeting or conversation with this president, you created a written record. did you feel that you needed to create this written record of these memos, because they might need to be relied on at some future date? >> sure. i created records after conversations that i think i did it after each of our nine conversations. if i didn't, i did it for nearly all of them especially the ones that were substantive. i knew there might come a day when i would need a rec...

Made. my understanding is that then again unlike your dealings with presidents of either parties in your past experience, in every subsequent meeting or conversation with this president, you created a written record. did you feel that you needed to create this written record of these memos because they might need to be relied on at some future date? >> sure. i created records after conversations. i think i did it after each of our nine conversations. if i didn't, i did it for nearly all of them especially the ones that were substantive. i knew there might come a day i might need a record of wh...