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And msnbc political analyst covering his second impeachment. he was a younger man for that first one. >> that is correct. >> and norm ornstein, congressional historian at the american enterprise inter-stuut. and norm has watched all three of these impeachments that we've had from nixon forward. congressman heck, let me ask you about this deposition we're getting. it was dramatic enough on friday night when we read the opening statement in which he describes this phone call so clearly, but seeing the testimony that chairman schiff took him through and hearing his explanation of why he remembers...

For america's national interest that it's just breathtaking. >> and i want to read one more passage from the testimony, and this is about the security of this phone call which i think congressman heck, i'm sure, had shocked you to know this was an ambassador making a cell phone call from anywhere, but from ukraine, of all places. let me just read how the details of that unfolded in the testimony. the chairman: did that cause you any concern about the security of that phone call? mr. holmes: it was surprising to me that he -- yes, in my experience generally, phone calls with the president are v...

The trial of donald trump's longest serving adviser roger stone contradicts the president's response to robert mueller that, quote, i do not recall discussing wikileaks with stone, nor do i recall being aware of mr. stone having discussed with wikileaks with individuals associated with my campaign. rick gates testified at the roger stone trial that he heard donald trump on the phone with roger stone discussing wikileaks. before submitting his written testimony, president trump insisted that he wrote all those answers himself. >> my lawyers are working on that, i'm working on that. i write the ...

Ambassador who is just making a cell phone call from anywhere, but from ukraine of all places. let me just read how the details of that unfolded in the testimony. the chairman, did that cause you any concern about the security of that phone call? mr. holmes, it was surprising to me that he -- yes, in my experience generally, phone calls with the president are very sensitive and handled accordingly. the chairman, and making a cell phone call from ukraine, is there a risk of russians listening in? mr. holmes, i believe at least two of the three, if not all three of the mobile networks are owned ...

Fighting corruption in ukraine. we know that as soon as she left, the so-called three amigos, sondland, ambassador volker and rick perry, stepped in to say they were in charge of the policy and that rudy giuliani, who had helped the smear campaign, was deeply involved, and we know that there was enormous pressure put on president zelensky, including two things he wanted, a meeting with the president to reaffirm america's commitment to ukraine and the aid package. and that it was held up and it was held up despite the fact that every agency in the executive branch except for mick mulvaney and o...