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Accurate count citizen or not citizen or documented or not documentsed. that is required by the constitution going back to george washington. >> so you are saying accurate count. but within that, secretary, will let me ask you this question, because it's used for things like how many representatives, and all these things that determine who ends up in the white house. so it would seem unfair, right, you can see this argument, could you, that someone who is in this country illegally who is not a citizen is actually counted as someone who lives in a district and that count of a person goes toward...

Not seen really in the last i would say 15 months of this presidency. tomorrow again his schedule does not call for any public events. didn't today. didn't yesterday. so that is my question here. how much is this going to seep into other matters here? simply is not able or willing to do other things to get close to a camera for this. so the next time we are scheduled to see him with potentially asking him a question is on thursday when he leaves for cleveland, and then mar-a-lago. that could change of course. but he is hunkering down here. the question is will he be disciplined long enough to ...

And all of those people deserve the full benefits that the u.s. government provides. >> and just to note here, quickly, 10 to 14% of the population in some of the top states that voted for hillary clinton are noncitizens, texas only one in top five with the level of population that voted for the president. so obviously i know you are making the point it's not linked to politics, but of course the way we set up the system on a certain level it is. before we go i want to ask you wrun question, secretary lock, in your capacity as ambassador, we have just learned this moment, this is just breaking...

Including this question will result in millions of people not sending back the census form, and he says that they are therefore going to have to hire hundreds of though stands of americans to go door to door to collect this information, which will cost the american taxpayer millions and millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars more. again, we are supposed to count just the number of people living in america in all parts of america because regardless of this issue of representation, whether or not a state will lose the number of congressional seats because they under count the number of...

Yellow here. if they don't come forward to talk, that effects blue america. because look at the overlay of the presidential map from last time around. these are almost all blue areas. places like california out there. look at that. that's where most of these unauthorized immigrants are. and that's where the democrats are winning governor ships. presidential race. congressional seats. legislative seats. all of that, erin. >> obviously they would lose some of those seats if that question came in and got honest answers which is obviously ha big question here. the reality of it is people not citiz...