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You've done it, in part, because you felt like you could help guide him on issues that have mattered to you like foreign policy. >> right. >> so far he hasn't listened to your advice on syria, on the saudis, holding them to account on the murder of jamal khashoggi. >> right. >> do you feel like this relationship that you've cultivated has been worth it? >> absolutely, i feel like i've had more access to this president than any president combined. >> access but influence in policymaking? >> i'm generally very pleased. he pulled out of the iranian agreement, which was a nightmare. he has increas...

We left iraq too soon. we had them on the ropes in iraq, left too soon. i think the president's very committed to making sure that when we leave syria, that isis is depletecompletely defeated ae inside the ten yard line. and the iran/kurd situation has to be dealt with. i think we're in a pause situation where we're re-evaluating the best way to achieve the president's objective of having people pay more and do more. >> reporter: remember, ryan, despite graham suggesting trump may consider leaving the troops in' syria until isis is defeate, the president had already declared victory on the war...

Engagement in iraq, syria so that ois is just about destroyed. i just don't want to fumble the ball inside the ten yard line. sit down with the generals. get syria right. go to pakistan and put a free trade agreement on the table to push the taliban to the peace table and you can end the afghan war. he has destroyed isis virtually on his watch. he has put iran on the run. he has rebuilt our military. from a foreign policy point of view. now we've talked to north korea. i'm generally pleased. the syrian decision caught me by surprise and i fear it will undercut all we've achieved and i'll ask t...

But there are a lot of people who will get relief from a system that punishes the wrong people the wrong way too often. >> and there are lots of good things about it. you said it's a first step. it is. i'm not sure which yard line we're on, but if we're in the football game, maybe it's the 10 yard line. but that is 10 more yards further than we were. and the good thing is that this time it has things that are retroactive in it, that affects people who are serving right now rather than people who will be serving in the future. >> yeah. >> there are people in jail now or prison who have no idea ...

Of people -- it's called the first step act for good reason. there's a lot more that needs to be done. but there are a lot of people who will get relief from a system that punishes the wrong people the wrong way too often. >> and there are lots of good things about it. you said it's a first step. it is. i'm not sure which yard line we're on, but if we're in the football game, maybe it's the 10 yard line. but that is 10 more yards further than we were. and the good thing is that this time it has things that are retroactive in it, that affects people who are serving right now rather than people ...