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Could their journey inspire yours? order your kit at ancestrydna.com >> julie: i'm rejoined by my panel. we're talking about the immigration issue, the wall, and the zero tolerance policy that attorney general jeff sessions has called for and asking attorney generals to basically fall in line. i want to ask you, president trump's order comes after data shows that illegal immigration has sharply rebounded following a plunge in his first year in office. so then what do you say to critics that say that, and much like jose was just saying, that sending national guard troops to the border is a wast...

Will not be directly involved in enforcing at the border, they will play an important support function. more broadly, the one thing i do agree with him on, is we do need to have congress pass some kind of immigration reform to finally get rid of the madness of our immigration law as they stand now. as they are now, it's not working. >> julie: this week the department of homeland security announced there was a 37% increase in border apprehensions from february to march of the same year, of 2018. so now you've got this zero tolerance policy. do you not agree that this will in fact deter those lo...

He removed daca. now he wants to use the daca kids as a negotiating factor and nothing is getting done. look, the president has to do a better job to get democrats and republicans at the table. that's one of his priorities. i hope that he actually gets it done. i haven't seen it. and the last thing i'll say is we also have to do a better job of education campaign in central america and tell the folks down there, tell them it's not that easy. just because you cross the border you don't automatically get asylum. if we do a better information campaign i think that would help as well. >> julie: th...

The trump administration doubling down on efforts to secure the southern border as attorney general jeff sessions sets his sights on those crossing the border illegally. plus, conflicting message as trade tensions between the u.s. and china tens intensify. could further escalation be on the horizon? sfx: muffled whistle text alert. i'm your phone, stuck down here between your seat and your console, playing a little hide-n-seek. cold...

>> kelly: jill, thank you for joining us today. we'll continue to follow the developments of this ever-changing story. thank you. >> thank you. >> julie: we continue to follow the breaking news coming out of germany as a vehicle plowed into pedestrians and a historic downtown area. there have been several fatalities, three that we know of. we'll have the very latest developments as this investigation continues. so far, not being deemed terror as of yet. plus, defense secretary james madd mattis authorizing up to 4,000 national guard troops to the southern border. is this move justified? we dis...