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Against other people like sally yates, john whatever his namehe was who ran the national security division. >> mark: thanks a lot, joe. that's amazing. demoted three times. eventually it's going to be down to janitor or whatever it is. dan bongino is a former secret service agent and nra tv contributor. he is also author of the book "spygate: the attempted sabotage of donald j. trump." a dan joins us now. if you were in the president's position, would you agree to sit down with mueller? >> heck, no! why? mark, why should he sit down with mueller? his case is based on nothing. mark, let's walk ...

Because putin is poisoning and, in fact, killing the citizens of american allies. what do you make of this? >> yeah, mark, if trump is a russian asset being controlled by putin, he is certainly the worst russian asset in the history of human intelligence gathering. his military wiped out 200 russian mercs on a syrian battlefield. he has led the effort to cut off the nord stream 2 pipeline to economically damage russia. magnitsky has expanded that. we are having conversations like we are rational because we are, but trying to get through the 6-inch thick skull of liberals, who have committed to...

That, mark.wo if i thought mueller was acting in good faith, i would say, all right, maybe it maybe worth doing at that point if it is limited in scope. the problem is, mark, there is no evidence of that. mike flynn sat down with investigators from the case with no lawyer. the fbi went back, admitted there were no signs of deception. they then prosecuted him for what? for lying to the fbi. does that make any sense? there is no good faith effort here at all. >> mark: no, and i am absolutely opposed to this whole lying to the fbi thing. i think that is disgraceful. dan, i do want to get this in....

Drop in the ocean. most people would rather have noncriminal immigrants than get an extra $11 billion in taxes for state and local governments. >> well, there was a study in 2014, a bipartisan study by the senate when they were considering an immigration reform bill, and that did show that on undocumented immigrants were far less likely to commit crimes than native citizens of our country, so i'm not sure that that's entirely true that there is a huge influx off illegals wanting to commit crime. the numbers just don't match up. >> mark: no, that's actually not the case. for example, with i.c.e...

>> no. it didn't just start with the trump administration. any kind of derangement syndrome, when we have been talking about presidents, it started during the bush administration, people said that people had obama derangementin syndrome, now they are saying that people have trump derangement syndrome. it's just a way of discrediting anybody who disagrees with you, essentially. >> mark: but let's break that down. i remember the bush derangement syndrome, i remember saying to someone at the time, basically, george w. bush, a very moderate republican, he loved mexicans, for example, unlike the pr...