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Theories that they keep relying on instead of -- listen, no one should be making up their mind. i agree with you about whether the president should be impeached or not. listen to the testimony. but don't you think it may be partisan because of the beliefs and throwing out these debunked conspiracy theories, trying to out the whistle-blower? doesn't that make it more partisan at least, that takes it into a completely different realm than it should be. >> oh, i'm not suggesting there isn't blame to go around. >> right. >> what i'm saying is whether or not -- i think the facts are going to be agr...

>> that the ukrainians would have to have the prosecutor general make a statement with respect to the investigations as a condition of having the aid lifted. >> okay. so let's remember gordon sondland is testifying bright and early tomorrow morning, 9:00 a.m. and if he has learned anything from the testimony so far, like i said just moments ago, he'd better be prepared to tell the truth. in the midst of all of this, congressman jim jordan, who was put on the intel committee specifically to be the republicans' attack dog, seems to be doubling down on his strategy of yelling. i should point out ...

>> quickly, there are those who say hobby lobby should take the penalty and not provide insurance for their employees. that would cost them $24 million in fees alone, taxes, i guess you would call them, and then the employees wouldn't have insurance. >> what happens if it puts them out of business and the woman who is screaming and yelling doesn't have a job? then she really can't get her birth control and her condoms and whatever else. >> health insurance is an enticement for people who work for them. >> that's what they're -- >> we have to leave it there. >> next, president obama is worried ...