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Intent and stand athwart it yelling stop. i think we are seeing his personal opinions of homosexuality coming forward in what he said. the problem for him is that's not the court's job. the state and the country has a compelling interest with murder. is there a compelling interest in stopping people from getting married? that's the problem he'll have. >> my approach is if you're conservative on these issues, even if you're a chief justice or whatever you are. why doesn't he just say call me old fashioned or anything. just why do you have to be nasty? i think it's the question of nastiness. you...

Consub-tive, and there was the famous buckley quote about yelling stop, right. preserve the status quo and keep things. your point, going all the way back to burke, he wanted to end everything. >> burke was a ferocious critic of the status quo. as he began to see the french revolution gain momentum throughout europe, he thought the real problem with the class of europe is that they did not rule, and they were too comfortable in their privileges. this is exactly what he says. and basically, you know, if they are going to take it on, they have to be a little bit more --