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>> i well, again, i didn't know that the aid was conclusively tied. was presuming. to say yes condition c it was or no tenanit wasn't. >> and he said yes, it was. >> he said yes, it was. >> mr. goldman. >> thank you, mr. chairman, and thank you again, mr. sondland. we do appreciate your efforts to refresh your recollection from the documents. we share your frustration in not having the documents to help guide this investigation.ou so we do appreciate those efforts. one of the documents that you provided to us goes back to the conversation you and the chairman were having about mr. mulvaney. an...

How big of a development is this in the coalition's war against isis? >> i think we need to be careful in talking to this in terms of es c es claer to measure. this was done in defense of syrian democratic forces that the coalition was supporting and has been supporting on the ground. that is a commitment that coalition made a long time ago when we agreed to help the syrian democratic forces on the ground. we made it very clear publicly -- not just to them, but publicly that if they came under fire, if they come under attack, we would come to their defense. so this was a long-standing understa...

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