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And for psychiatrists to say that families are delusional, they're supposed to be delusional. because this is such a tragic event that you can only be delusional at a time like this. >> you eugene, eunice has offered some advice and words of encouragement to the families. your final thoughts. >> well, eunice spoke well, which i totally agree with her. but i would like to add just one comment. i mean, for those malaysian officials and the airlines people. accidents happen. you know, saying sorry over and over again, it doesn't really help people. imagine their families involved in this crash. i...

Okay, i would never stop. and for psychiatrists to say that families are delusional, they're supposed to be delusional. because this is such a tragic event that you can only be delusional at a time like this. >> you eugene, eunice has offered some advice and words of encouragement to the families. your final thoughts. >> well, eunice spoke well, which i totally agree with her. but i would like to add just one comment. i mean, for those malaysian officials and the airlines people. accidents happen. you know, saying sorry over and over again, it doesn't really help people. imagine their families...

>> i think we get used to that. >> that you wouldn't in this sort of case want the jury to have no african-american jurors. >> i don't think the prosecution believed in the case. i think they had their heart in it, they didn't have a story to tell. they didn't have a case to make. right. both of you, i agree with. they impeached the witness. they impeached the testimony given through videotape and otherwise testimony even with the guy not having to sit in the chair, zimmerman. i didn't get a sense they had a counter story to tell. >> their own story, exactly. >> please come back. you're the be...

It really isn't surprising that they haust. >> do you think it's surprising that the jury allowed an all-white jury? why did the prosecution let that happen? why didn't they challenge to get a mixed jury? >> i have no idea. i thought that procedure was fairly well established over the last five or six decades. >> we get used to that. >> that you wouldn't want the jury to have no african-american jurors. >> i don't think the prosecution believed in the case. i think they had their heart in it, they didn't have a story to tell. they didn't have a case to make. both of you, i agree with. they imp...

Add drones, because they have drones. >> adding more drones. >> yeah, exactly. maybe a stimulus. i do think there is something somewhat sinister about this kind of militaryized -- >> border area. >> border area. where although immigration -- or like you said, immigration is at a net zero for mexico now. there's still going to be people caught in this kind of very militarized gauntlet. >> and, you eugene, i went to the border a couple weeks ago. it is the poorest place, there are cultures on both sides of the border fence to be putting infrared sensors in and drones and, you know -- double laye...