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>> i ran very few. but chris, do you think vampires is a good way it describe what they did, what bain did? i don't think they are vampires, but i didn't think they are job creators. john, correct me if i'm wrong on the facts here. they took a hundred million out and i understand workers lost part of their pension and almost all of their health care. couldn't they have taken 80 million out and save some of that money to give work ears little pension and healthcare relief as they are losing their jobs? isn't that a legitimate question about where your values are? >> of course it a legitimate qu...

In the end, you and i know and john knows, this comes down to the acceptance speech at the convention and three debates. when it is as close as this is, that is what will decide it. no one will remember the ed rendell or cory booker or, what is the etch-a-sketch guy's name? i already forget. >> remember that spit ball speech, cory booker is working for his job bp thank you ed rendell, thank you john. coming up, where are the democratic sur gates that should be out there supporting obama? why don't we hear from the loyalists? where are they? we will find out. the nbc wall street journal poll, t...

He created wealth, not jobs, i think that has a great degree of accuracy. but i would love to see the way we run campaigns in america totally changed. >> okay, john, you covered this campaign. you are looking at a game change again, perhaps. looks to me like the republicans got what they wanted. they wanted an articulate spokesman against the president. they have them in core cory booker. they've got some really good people here seeming to be making their case to mitt romney and his role at bain is not fair game. >> i'm not sure that -- yes, chris. certainly they are using these were they have...

>> you sound like a shill. >> are they paying you? >> absolutely not. they concede the states are found that fires aren't caused by this. he argued governments are on the take or you are not using good science. >> look, josh fox has a mission. he's trying to shut down the gas drilling industry. my mission was -- >> they are kind of winning. my state there's this big field they won't let them develop it. >> i think new york is right now importing a lot of gas from around the country including from pennsylvania. you john if you live in new york are using it. i am glad you are using it as opposed...

To me and somebody grabbed at his garment and he fought that. he was a big man, 6-foot 3 inches, 195. as he fought back he twisted his ankle. as a result of that, he had to change his pitching motion during the world series. imagine having to make a basic change during the world series. he won games one and four of the world series, and he was actually taken out of the seventh game while the pirates were still ahead because he was in so much pain. martha: it's a great story, a great story about baseball, pittsburgh and john moody as well growing up in pirtsberg. thank you for sharing this with...