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Common parts of music, and whether composers, musicians and song writers can own parts of music, the harmony and the chords as they are assembled or whether chords and parts of the music as john was speaking to kind of become more of the public domain and be used in other works by other composers, in this case used by ed sheeran and in this trial, obviously the jury members finding in favor of ed sheeran here. now, on the days leading up to this decision and the days of this trial, kathleen townsend griffin, the daughter of ed townsend, she is one of the plaintiffs. she is a descendant of the ...

Identical, d, and d and f sharp bass to a, and then d, f sharp minor, a, the chord structure and the tempo exactly the same, marvin gaye's was recorded a half step higher than ed sheeran's was. but the melody is completely different, and typically the melody that is -- what is at issue when we are talking about copyright infringement. >> he's been so upset his grandmother passed and he was not able to attend, his father told attendees he was too upset to do so as the court case was ongoing. lydia hu is outside the new york city courthouse with the latest from there. lydia. >> hi there, sandra ...

And pharrell did, the chord and rhythm are identical, but hundreds of songs have identical chord structures and rhythm structures. it's the melody and the nine notes have to be the same and that was not the case with this song. >> it's so true, john. and the reason why there was so much focus is there are so many songs that fall into this. one of the key defenses to this whole case that ed sheeran testified about is we are talking about just elements of what pop songs are made of. we are talking four chords, talking two notes, that's the underlying basis of these pop songs. how can you possibl...

Those very or moderately worried, 48%, not worried at all, 20%. five seconds left. >> and the same poll, break it down by different categories. folks with less than 100,000 are too worried. and less -- and 9 trillion are not insured, over 250. the i'll explain all of this in the show. if you get a chance, tune in. it's a big show. >> sandra: thank you, sir. >> john: four leading members of the far right proud boys group convicted of seditious conspiracy in their role in the capitol hill riot. the jurors are still deliberating on a fifth defendant but did convict him on other serious felonies. ...

See if secretary mayorkas sets foot where i am in the next 24 hours. back to you. >> john: we consider the idea of calm before the storm, some have observed, the storm before the hurricane comes in. griff jenkins, along the border, thank you so much. coming up, sandra, mark esper, the former secretary of defense and the former el paso mayor dee margot will react. >> sandra: the verdict is in as we told you earlier, we know ed sheeran has been found not liable, john. this just in from that u.s. district courtroom a few moments ago, our producer said ed sheeran stood up and hugged his team, know...