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Than to close your restaurants down or something. i see what you're saying. the irs is intrusive just on its own. n now-- >> it changes the nature of the irs. the mission of the irs is collecting money, but bill you're going to love this. now every american is a captive audience of the insurance industry. this isn't republicans trying to protect insurance companies. now president obama has forced 300 million americans to come calling to insurance companies and the irs is the collection agency for insurance companies. the irs will send half a trillion dollars to insurance companies. >> bill: we...

>> let's see if we can pass the reconciliation bill, the hard part that goes over to the senate? >> it doesn't matter because as soon awes pass the senate version it's going up and the president is going to sign and we'll have some form of quasi socialized medicine. unintended consequences of that and again i'm looking forward tcreate a bigger entitlement to society and i'm sure you know, you're eloquent on the issue. 60% of those receiving obama care are going to be subsidized by me and you and other people and this heightens the entitlement society and brings us up into the western european ...

What are they doing now? they're just bloviating, these pinheads? >> actually they're going through the final stages of this. what dick cheney might have referred to as the last throes perhaps, bill. they have a little bit more business to go. there's a couple of votes, but they passed the rule earlier today which was a sign that democrats had the necessary 216 plus to advance their agenda in the first place. the rule was just a parameters for the debate and how they divide up the time among the republicans and democrats. once the house passes it, it can go down pennsylvania avenue to the pres...

>> bill: perception is reality. this is what we have to deal with. >> bill, they have not sold this as a component of our economic security, they have not sold us it to the insurer, that's going to hit them for democrats and independents and republicans. >> bill: that's for the hill, that's for your penheady hill readers. that's for the beltway people. here is what's going on. the right is selling obama as a socialist flat-out, wants to take your freedoms away. that's it. that's their message. that's a simple message, even i can understand that message. president's a socialist. >> it's not ent...

Until swamp the discussion. >> bill: if the economy is better it will take the edge off, but i think that people are teed off. i don't think they're going to be not tee 'd after. >> the people tee 'd off are in the negative in the obama column and. >> bill: there's more discussion, i got to tell you there's more discussion about this health care thing than i've ever seen other than the wars. this is the biggest political discussion i've ever seen on some policy thing. gentlemen, always interesting to talk with you both. will the democratic party get annihilated because of the obama care situat...