Of tanks along its border with iraq so told them semi autonomous kurdish region following last weeks referendum the referendum was held in defiance of the government in baghdad as well as neighboring iran and turkey all right those are the headlines inside story is next. Thank. You and the difference is. In the similarities of cultures across the. Aljazeera. A difference of languages in cameroon turns violent anguish because a demanding an end to what they say is discrimination by the french speaking the jockey some are even calling for independence so what does this mean for camels unity this is inside story. With. With. With hello and welcome to the program im Elizabeth Parata secession its been the talk of the week from the kurdish region of iraq to catalonia and spain and on sunday and we are speaking parts of cameroon join the trend by demanding their own Independence Police shot and killed at least eight people in the western regions of the country power was also caught and remains out the rallies took place on the very day camerons english and french regions had united fifty six years earlier they had been protests like this for nearly a year but until recently they had only called for reforms camerons only speaking minority said theyre being marginalized by the french speaking majority. Well the government has been criticized for its lack of response to months of protests but president paul b. A responded to sundays protest saying let me make this very clear its not forbidden to voice any concerns in the republic however nothing great can be achieved by using verbal excesses street violence and defying authority Lasting Solutions to problems can be found only through peaceful dialogue but critics of the government say its shown dialogue throughout this conflict allowing it to grow and escalate and get to our guests in just a moment but first mohamed the city has this report. They have a National Anthem their own flag and a leader in waiting all the trappings of a potential new country but without any land because what these people want to call amazonia is at the moment the English Speaking part of cameroon its here the demonstrators have gathered momentum in the last year by saying that people suffer discrimination at the hands of the french speaking government most people just want reform but calls for outright independence are getting louder. At the end of the First World War cameroon was divided between the french and the british at its independence in one nine hundred sixty one the English Speaking opted to join the French Cameroon instead of neighboring nigeria. These protests have been mainly peaceful but Cameroon Security Forces have cracked down six protesters were shot dead last year and hundreds arrested. An apparent gesture of reconciliation president paul b. Ordered that the charges be dropped against several detainees but that doesnt seem to have come tensions the man who leads the separatists has been touring the us calling for a peaceful uprising we call for a nonviolent revolution we call for nonviolent protests nonviolent much this is one straight into the world and we have. To be patient. But this is a moment that we must continue to stand for. The u. N. Secretary general has asked camerons government to address the grievances of the English Speakers but the u. N. Is unlikely to answer mr traverse prayers for a new country called Amazonia Mohammed over d. C. Al jazeera. Also i guess and i was in the first were joined on the line from camerons capital yolland a by the former minister dr elvis uncle a uncle and a doctor and colleges how worried should the government a right now by the calls for an independent and the sanya on her part not. As a citizen of cameroon are noninterest be considered. All right its concerning that some people are referring to. As far as im concerned. But i dont i dont identify with them to talk about earlier and i think that while the concept of another know. Is the opinion by certain also mentors because. Im not one of those words that i think that its just wrong opinion its an opinion which is again because if you have come it is an opinion on a movement which again are very much to. The United Nations just one of the you know the work of the United Nations and i think it is a helper now which isnt really the politics and the politics of all the people of iran in general and majority of illegals because government in particular but we are seeing protests calling for and dependent and bizarre from some people and there are those who say they would never have got this far as their grievances are being marginalized or that being disadvantaged for speaking english would address right now were seeing the killing of protesters in the shutting down of Internet Services why is the government responded this way to these grievances. Of course. Theres only one independent in that room and that is you know on every one or another measure the reviews that it covers the last two independents this group are coming. Then youre speaking all french speaking all whatever they cannot pretty clear another eternal state that will be termed amount to a rebellion against the republic and against the established laws but as far as the. As far as the grievances that of the rich by some are because they feel marginalized you know like much as i know i know that yes people are right to appeal and since i think its legitimate probably vances what are the differences are based on marginalization. Of all. Cylinders injustice on lack of a weekly or whatever it is normal one hundred of them according to our differences but what do you do with differences when you have them i think that you can build a little interest within the framework of the long within the framework of the values of the other completely and in conformity with. Theres much value in the last nine months in the person killed because of there are those who want to have what they call the independence and up to angola youre just about to meet with the Prime Minister what are you going to be discussing what should he be dressing right now where we all have a meeting because as citizens who are concerned all our concerns we are going to get our level to look under us but from one of our of this congress i was one of the one of the two tingling stricken region regions of cameroon and we learned that meetings are all over with all kinds of people. Businesses are just lost with our complex our style of the just ask you the question of the problems of the day including those who tell you that they are going to reason to do two or three i really got to be on them all i dont know there are millions intended to restart our union and our ability to reinforce our our our our our our terms of belonging and even together at the venture about it there are only divergences of the three arms we tried to talk to this a lot a lot of lines of Common Ground are you not aware of the government from going to government then finding you dont want to listen to the questions on the problems raised or at talks and colorado as we thank you very much for your time ducks and bolivia appreciate it where you much thank you for your time as this angola joining us from yellen day. Well lets bring in our panel now in nairobi. Who is camron analyst at the International Crisis group joining us on skype from budapest Albert Chanda who is a political blogger focusing on cameron and in london Michael Moore associate of the Africa InternationalAffairs Program at the London School of economics welcome to you or mr chanda and her friends were out on the streets on sunday some of them calling for an independent and bazaar near just how realistic is that given that decades of course for greater autonomy havent resulted in anything well i think the call was to say surely by majority of people in the streets yesterday that income link is legitimate i could say that its not a very stiff solution to the government is legitimate because the government has for more think these because the reaction from the government has been which are having to freshen it have been avoiding their organs have been arresting and between most of the leaders so i think its very very good to me because the concerns of my to my vision by the Anglican Community is very very real and i think the government is supposed to come back to dialogue and he said i think it is not need for everybody to come back on the stance of magazine which was the first demand by the younger one community when these protests broke out last year i think a good month for federalizing a silver jeep and its the best very solution for all to return to a diet of people with a neutral third party full of it the un the African Union of ecowas to mediate on this because the government cannot mediate on this crisis when people have been the first people the first people responsible for the escalation so the country did george of them a vehicle for the same crisis because mr im on that let me bring you in now what have you made off the government response to the latest protests not dissimilar to their response to protests earlier this year and is there the other conditions on the ground do they exist now for talk of federalism when that hasnt happened in decades. Well i think. The difficulty that the recession this movement have actually at the moment is that they are not operating on on a level political field. And you dont hit the government is quite a rich lives and if they are have when they have been deposed that is very difficult for them actually to articulate and have yes. It doesnt quite appear that they have managed to actually. Get across to the Un Security Council because that is the Main International body that can actually authorized or even officiate any serious talks towards secession. Answer in a really ongoing let me bring you in now where is the International Community on this but also the we have been quite concerned at the International Crisis group by world we qualify for because of the kind of. Ms rate. Response of the International Community we think given what happened. Yesterday sunday there is a need to strengthen the rio one more bit accordion it. The response of the Indian NationalCommunity Things the beginning of this crisis in october twenty sixth team we have seen a government was not been responsive to the demands of the under phone including some which are not mrs three what they qualify as terrorism the demand for federalism or even the demands for an effective extended decentralization not just regarding the underfund regions of cameroon but regarding the under nations. We think today that it is time for the International Community to act a very strong way to avoid in order to avoid if possible an irreversible deterioration of the situation on the grown that we are called and we observe with more and more people within the secessionist trend of the un before movement we think that it is time for there to to think about violent means to reach their goals. Mr chen do you know that the government will say that about those violent means that the protests that the movement as a threat to National Security you know they use the word extremists and terrorists what do you make of that. Well i think the governments qualification the government twenty five years and most seafarers because boko haram is the real threat to National Security younger foreign crisis has been a time bomb for a long time and the reason for this is because the government has avoided dying of extremism is seen right now by so many people because this is the only way some some people who express your views so many people trying to express them peacefully by protesting they have been shot and killed we have elected off the show would i give to be from an effect of if i mean so so many people have expressed their views and yet the mind through the most peaceful means possible but they have been arrested and knocked down i mean even writing an article on the crisis could get you in jail so so many people have been pushed to the wall and they are reacting with extreme extreme conditions which we can theyre theyre very wrong theyre the government is supposed to create conditions for reconciliation the first condition to be concerned with the people its with the government to release every person from prison release the people and call for around people that you know involving the succession needs involving those in support of a unitary state and those in support of federalism and i think we can my part a good solution from this because its our heritages our nature and the vexed him for us to do is get back to nine hundred sixty one the era when we have this two people and look for the best solution for each each Family Reunion and the best solution could be our new Home Communities a fair grassy square where theyre to have their voices head of you know when the getting to be very. What mr chen does sense that hasnt happened in so many decades what needs to happen now i mean youve talked about that and the involvement of the International Community is that what hast. Happen what couldnt change things thats the only solution we could talk of right now which is viable and which is reasonable why am i saying this because first of all we cannot expect a government of for the earth to make good on this crisis to join this crisis because they would come with a condition of one an indefensible and they couldnt quite get the street economy to be killed dying of precondition the civi if they are dying of each room each of you in view televised dying of good nature into parts three and the best people for the next body to be the un requires all of the African Union to make use of this crisis and have a fair and balanced view from all sides and calm to a solution to ensure the nation could live in peace mr aylmore what about the powers that be a way that is the anglo phones that have been disadvantage the british so have a responsibility have they abandoned the anger falls some say it. It is doubtful i dont think that the british have been the responsibility of the moment because the phone company is slightly from Different Countries and usually when there are cases like this its it is sent to the francophonie rather than the commonwealth and the francophonie is francophone so the whole issue gets bullied. And i think by the moment it would appear that. The under phone part of cameroon have to seriously consider making their case a representation through eco arse first go to the African Union and perhaps to the Un Security Council and then perhaps some sort of study and systematic representation. Gets them somewhere. Mr on go who do you think in the ecowas and the African Community would support there and he finds because what we saw in western capitals in august anyway the meetings to try and find a solution to this ended either in facile or turned violent. Well looking at all the developments since one the year that describes this as a real marriage. Im not sure that eco was or even the African Union or something of a Community Better place to address played a mediation role maybe they can accompany the kind of International Community response even the secessionist themselves are calling much more the United Nation which is the anti that has. Put together the cameron and reform of the cameron francophone in one thousand nine hundred sixty one one thing i wanted to come back on and to highlight is emphasizing and supporting what my polices are just stated that the crisis that in the beginning was when the the government things october where denying was denying the existence of dandruff one problem fodder we have seen the value of the pressure and dismiss of all the grievances to the point that when the greek government started to address to some of the what was called technical grievances it was too late and people were further radicalize i think there is a need now to see the cameron government with an international which is the most credible and and reforms as a chinese themselves are calling for the United Nation regarding the issue of this decision of course i think it is very unlikely that cameron will reach that step one day but on the issue properly of federalism or the issue of effective extended decentralization i think there is there are things on which reform front of one and the International Community can find Common Ground we at the International Crisis group in our last report august report we advocated for an extension of an effective decentralization wish which can be a solution. At the same time good for and reform but bad do graunt of francophone can support because some of the francophone feel reluctant views are viewed the question of federalism and the government the government is having these trends in the fact that francophone in somehow some of them are rejecting federalism and the house is popular grant on this basis so maybe the effect of decentralization and extending it we can discuss little body detail of what that means can be a kind of in between solution that can satisfy both sides within this crisis and until that happens because there does seem a while away mr chen to how worrying is the situation on the ground again weve seen protesters killed we are seeing the committee to protect journalists saying that the government is using the two thousand and fourteen antiterrorism law to stifle dissent we are once again seeing Internet Services cut so where to from here right now to come on tensions before we can get to you know any talk of decentralization or more federalism. What was a question on the Ground Authority because for the shot every day and so many of them by june and on account of four so i think at this point we really dont know whats going to be the next their income written in English Speaking regions you know i gave there will be more protests in the coming days in the coming months but i think this is a moment where we have to reconcile and we have had two voices from the idea of one community i think my previous as i just said decentralization shouldnt be. A topic right now as a viable solution because i think one thing one to see we have a constitution on decentralization but it has not been fully implemented i think the other one community would be would look stupid so i stepped on effective decentralization of this point what the end of course would you say is whats worked before what worked before with the federal system a federal system which would ensure the quality and justice for every person because we need to remind everyone back in the federal police the trust it was to people to stay the course and to davey in this community and the whole community has been dissolved into the two regions we little or no water normally and i think thats the best solution because if we have to keep watching whats happening on the ground people are going to keep dying and nothing is going to happen and at the same time people have been pushed to the extreme to do me a lot of one because i dont think we agree that this is a good outcome of the situation sufficient is not going to be the best solution because its going to greenwashing through a humanitarian crises just a couple of they want the government to shut down the region you saw a mass exodus of people leaving one to see for help from the francophone regions so just imagine we have a situation of some sort of war or problems just imagine the number of people who were going to be refugees imagine the. Number of people were going to die i dont think we want a situation so the best solution right now is director and the best possible that iraq should happen affectively weve got rid of a section of the playground if all talking to a minute here its always going to be your truck i think the un is going to be the first person to call upon the whole he could listen to his call from the Anglican Community and i hope the government would also stop he he he went on to come up with a couple of days ago a governor called the ngo for dolls i mean all of this what are you vision helps in in pushing the section if you want a legitimate reason and i think its time for us to reconcile but on the basis of true dialogue mr only. Mr im going to find i bring you in here who will represent the anger phones and this true dialogue of the government was to agree to hold dialogue they have jailed many of the most prominent representatives of the movement. I think thats a key question not just for us but for the entire come around but there are still some were outside. The jail that the government has recently released even if some of them have lost the very heavy Popular Support that they used to have in the to benefit in the past the government is now like in the position of not having a credible interlocutors with whom to discuss so buy in jail orders are abroad in the us or in south africa and order european and american countries but we cant start the buhl way for the federal is we have been released while presenting boyan or a reform down it can be this can be a beginning of the solution regarding that all right mr thank you very much for that and thanks to all our guests hans to marie on albert and michael. And thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website aljazeera dot com and for further discussion go to our Facebook Page thats facebook dot com forward slash a. J. 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