Up by president Nicolas Maduro announced the poll would be held in april that is months ahead of schedule as the headlines of news continues but right now it is talk to aljazeera. Aljazeera where ever you. Would you can. See. The my act plant in the southern your olds birthplace of the soviet unions Nuclear Weapons program. Today it reprocess the spent nuclear fuel but fifty years ago my ex suffered whats thought to be the worlds third Worst Nuclear Accident that was covered up until the one nine hundred eighty s. Vast areas of land were contaminated including. A city built for my x. Workers and super secret it was left off maps. Activists nadezhda could he put his father and grandmother died of cancer as did many others she campaigned for the truth about the contamination and compensation for residents but fled to paris after she was accused of being a traitor. So whats life like in a so called closed city why do people still live in a reserve and what dangers remain we find out in the desert or could tip over talks to aljazeera. That does dakota povo thanks so much for talking to aljazeera growing up when did you realize that you were living in a special place a socalled secret city. And maybe i understood it when i was. School go on the river travelling visit a group of schoolchildren in the prime there came in the south and we were prevented by the leader of our group that if somebody arrived and asked us where you fall more we should tell it to be a from chalabi and then the there was one situation in airport one woman came and she asked me all kids where you go in you travel and we say yes and she asked us where youre from and they say were from chile obviously were ready for this and she told oh im also from chile others from which school you are and you know that i remember this terrible feeling of fear that our teacher prevented other spices around what i should tell if i feel something wrong i will be arrested and in this moment maybe i began to think that sound feeling special in our place but i didnt know what exactly because even school we rolled the letters about where you for all where where your parents are working i always knew that my mother shes a doctor and my father is the engineer but the question was you are do what your father is doing during your job i ask it and he told me i make it pay powerful candies and did he ever tell you what he was really doing and drug lutie he was working in the representation plant. Which we name him on asa like a plan to congress thirty five i have never took at this hearing about his job because he died when i was twelve and he was ill by very serious cancer cancer from. Eighty three eighty five. In this moment of course i have never new sound i have never known soften. The job. Of course i hear it something from my mother like a radiation song from the influence but i did not Pay Attention for this well for decades the outside world mostly didnt know what happened in my act back in one thousand nine hundred fifty seven the explosion that occurred tell us about what actually happened and what effect that did have on the local population the local environment my yard was built like answer for the American Nuclear bombs to produce to put on your four soviet bomb and when they began to produce plutonium they produced many types of Nuclear Waste and they dampen these Nuclear Waste high level Nuclear Waste inside the river which is situated there its a cherry where they did during three years finally they understood that its very dangerous because population became to be dyed to became to have lake a mirror and began to gave a bit of childrens with the defects and they stopped and they began to keep high level Nuclear Waste in underground towns and exactly this underground towns exploded twenty nine september nineteenth fifty seven twenty million curie exploded in atmosphere and the area twenty free thousand square kilometers will continue natives are there explosion was a big but at the same moment people who were working in the results go in this more when they did nothing that something serious happened because it was the first years and there were many explosions for soil to organize underground space for reactors. The people who are in the villages which riseth rated iran dissolves they were not informed they knew that something secret the build there they were created and the villages were destroyed we lost twenty five villages after this accident situation and the area like i already told twenty three thousand square kilometers will contaminate it by the genuine day to us today that two hundred seventy two thousand people are dated after this accident. What convinced you that the accident and the plant were actually killing People Living in the local area because officially theres been no study there are no real figures about the numbers of people whove died in the surrounding areas compared to other parts of russia have that now of course after exit in this situation was a terrible and they must of people there have a radiation disease which arrived immediately after quantum in nature and it was visible it was not like a long time effect it was an immediate effect so all the scientists who and the doctors who are working in this moment they saw these consequences for this reason they took a decision to ever create people from these their natural zone after this situation there are created institutes of each which began to study health of population this institute is situated and should our bills and another institute which studies their health of population offers also is situated in the results from this more when they began to make their scientifical starting off course if we headed down draws if they didnt they have never organized it because your own father died of cancer but even on his death difficult they didnt use that word did they know in the soviet time all information about the accident her secret even people who were working in the plant in this moment like liquidators they signed special paper to keep it secret so why then do you think so many people through the decades have decided to stay in school keeps the bag given that they must know the health risks of being in that area you know the people of close that city it is a special civilization maybe we can tell sol because the clause that city they were built in the empty place. In the forest and the people who built it they specially brought for create this city create this production and they keep secret keep ideology and grow all the new generation to continue their job to defend our motherland and people in had a very High Standard of quality of life didnt they they had good education Good Health Care good food yeah youre on soviet try we were like your state inside the state we always were on the leadership of the moscow. Group the. Quality of life and it was a big contradiction with the people who believe in iran and on the quantum unaided area because they are they were really poor we can be major in the clause that sits its like air like a bottle of glass reason roof and where is the picture around so people who are inside they see the picture which is their own and the government just open the open the this bottle and give you their food and then closed so we are a little bit is a late society and even then the information about all can diminish and we are all pound it was ninety. Eight nine hundred eighty nine in this small amount. This special propaganda is right for us for people close a city like air of course of the accident but it was not so terrible like the people around asked try to imagine and of course theyre evil but they are evil because they made a marriage between their family inside the families with a close relative so they were blaming inbreeding and people having alcohol problems thats why i said yeah exactly you set up an organization to try and help People Living in. How do people respond to you and what were you trying to do to help them i was in the conference environment conference in one thousand nine hundred nine and the process and from the Environmental Department of our nuclear city made the report and for me it was like a shoulder because he told the proof and he was official from our city and he was telling the about quantum in nation after teacher dumping and he told about contamination off the air accident and also he was talking about current contamination because there is a current contamination and i was shocked it arrived and i ask you why you did not tell why you does not tell these stories in our city he told me nobody in our closed city does need this information people prefer do not know and in this moment you know that it was like a milestone for me all the possible make right place in my head and i have this i have decided to create enjoy and defend the people in two thousand three nights at human rights Public Department and we began to go quite a professional n. G. O. S to defend rights of people who suffered from my accidents and for people who live in them closer to secure fresh. But there were attempts to effectively silence you to intimidate you to to believe you tell us what happened from the first moment. My yok tried to control us for example our First Programme it was a defense of pregnant women rights. The Public Relations option arrived to. Check us is the retail something for pregnant women the baltics in the ninetys used to seven it was like a little bit paranoia of all them and to five thousand for the fees be they forbidden our phils. Home so so Logical Research because it was my dream to make a socioLogical Research of mentality of people of clothes a city into falzon eight it was a story of. Intimidation for on payment taxes that they announce that our charitable money its profitable we should pay taxes for this money and it was a long time prot says to hear us with the visit of the people took in their god two children god and his a visit of somebody for my maternal to clean you can i go there they arrested our coned but finally we were wrong in the court and we were checked many times but this last story is a recognition ask like you for rain the agent ensure we didnt survive it. I think that beginning of last story if theres a case its much more terrible case for me because i identified the diff of six old go in Little Village horrible car which was born in two thousand and five which died in two thousand and eleven from the cancer off lever and this cancer will officially connected with the influence of radiation on hugh grant market and it was a situation very cynical because grandmother who was liquidator shes a life of the martyr is a life and the little girl died and i tried to receive the compensation of on picking your damage for mom and we applied to be the implication in local court but we were rejected and called to told us that in ninety fifty seven there was not legislation about unpick you need them and and so today this mother cant to receive this compensation and it was very loud in our region and many many people called me and exactly this story was a base for the recognition asked all i care for a new agent because the court and also that it was political activity to criticize the judgment of local court to try to change policy or for Russian Federation in direction of victim of my yako then the. Original t. V. Show on the feel my new clear heart of russia the head of. That major of our city who was the head of local fees be told that i destroyed to nuclear shills of russia tried to create carlson nuclear calls the city calls a director for me it was from one side it was little bits finally because i knew that i didnt do it but at the same moment it was a really serious accusation and when my ever cape town the federation of human rights advised me to leave i did it because you know that activity again the. Security of Russian Federation its a crime a state threesome. There are. Punishment its to mean two years of prison so you came to paris with your children how difficult was it for you to leave russia to leave us i had a true feelings filled feeling was i felt myself like a traitor of people because you know that many people in region they connected with me their hopes on justice even in any cases we did not receive the rules alts sometimes the fight for your rights its also a result its like a fight for justice against unjustice and this is a moment i feel myself. I own laws the rules i feel that i was absolutely. Outside a situation. Like i lost the connection because my people. It was a really difficult even when i arrived in paris i refused to ask a political refugee during three months because i rolled many placation to russian prosecutor to. Be about that why the channel for russia. Russia twenty four accused my organization in the spear not do you have the evidence of all these do you can you give me some film which prove it and i hope maybe if i receive the good answer i can beg for me of course the paris was not paris like for people who arrived here for another goals for me towards the city or for example my act now is used to reprocess Nuclear Waste not just from russia though from other countries including i think norway and germany. Do you think that mark is capable of handling the amount of waste that is being sent now and hes being planned to be sent there in the future i think that my arc is not comparable to reprocess Nuclear Waste because our reports say so of Nuclear Waste is a very complicated technology and like a final point my yard crecy of the many many. Types of Nuclear Waste its a high level Nuclear Waste middle level Nuclear Waste and low level Nuclear Waste and until today my yacht continued to dump a different type of waste in different nature will resume watts reach just to change this state use yesterday it was a natural lake today its a technical reason wars but it just pay a park who changes state years and the problem is today that my yard cant to hobble by this and then you can always continue to damp to go to the open ri where around to each we have four villages visit population five thousand people one of those recent incidents there were reports of a radioactive cloud went there floating over Europe Russia denied that it had indeed come from that particular area around us ask around nyack what do you believe i suppose that it could be over in the off vitrification off reprocessing plant what their make in this all in the they mix the glass the is a nuclear high level Nuclear Waste. You dont understand what has happened exactly you just know the truth then you should be keeping this came nearer and also there was a field which normally should take they must to change a trigger and maybe soften happened in this process if we analyze the story of all my accidents from nine forty nine into two thousand and seven. This accidents will never recognize it by my jacket its always the society who pressed them or prosecutor i think in this situation they will be continue to know because my yard its not only local enterprises its a part of the global process to receive. Markets of Nuclear Waste and now in the region and even a level of. Contrary they tell about the who are from our call core and from our name enemies organizer these process because. You know its always much more easy try to find any me. Instead told me to yourself guilty should countries that send their Nuclear Waste to mock should they bear some responsibility for what happens to it then because of course russias been paid a lot of money to take this waste and reprocess it at mine my acc. I was sure that the russian takes money i think the Nuclear Departments restart them takes money. I think that Foreign Companies should not send their Nuclear Waste in russia in my jacket exactly first of all because the area really come to mean native there and they populations suffered continue to suffer today and i think there is a sound feel like a game because. The commands she gives for my yok right to make are a process because usually when theyre my yok want to receive a contract with different contrie is then known that you know that this situation is really grew do. We stopped down Nuclear Waste in the nature of the reserve waters and the teacher river and we improve the and improve the situation but like a person who a lawyer of people who still sofie i can constipate that its not rove for example if you go to their fishel site of my yuck you can see the official report that my dad stopped to dump Nuclear Waste in the end of sixteen years but why they did not publish the judgment of chalabi court that the former director of my yuck. Accused the in quantum in nation of teacher eva into falzon sicced its a prosecutor who made the expertize and who can state that in two thousand five hundred sixty tons of Nuclear Waste inside the teacher eva and the water in teacher was a real uclear waste and the population continued to leave there they dont want to publish that information and i think when they receive the documents to. Have a capacity to make this International Contract they wire and there is no outside International Jurisdiction is there of what happens at my ak is there anybody monitoring what takes place there. You know that before the situation this will thing you know i really believe that somebodys off outside Like International edges of the mccanns you. Control the situation but now i see no now i think no because you know that i am in this direction during twenty years and i had no any contact with a person of International Edge and see and even for example we had a meeting during corman conference for example during Climate Change conference and i tried to make it a question about this always still or not not my yup its a military problem of past even no i. Believe in two years in france and i have a possibility to taunt the people in the National Level and i sound some letters for some people in International Engines that i receive this conduct and know any ounce of i dont know maybe theyre afraid me. So how worried are you that they could be another serious accident at my ak. You know every every day when i go to sleep i think about my yard my dear god save my yard because part of it creeps are really all the and also on the commercial interests is much more higher than the interest of Nuclear Safety and you can a security i think can leave office and you Nuclear Accident and a final thought do you still hope to return home do you want to go back to russia would you ever go back to. Yes i would like to begin russia i would like to back in my city in my region because first of all i would like to be connected to the local people i see the situation by my own eyes. Also i would like to continue my job to defense people. I mean my your role i mean my. Evades the nuclear how they should propose a thank you it took me to understand thank you very. Hard. To. Discover a wealth of Award Winning programming from around the world we need more and find professionals a top priority is to model the new generation to study finds powerful documentaries debates and discussions as Prime Minister you do need to be critical of of all massage any and all sites is a challenge your perception of the contours of the story are shaped by the interests of the countries involved only on aljazeera. I dont want to live in the world where everything is designed in california im a child in. The hands of the corporation the only way to be subversive is to be able to control. My small bands he has built a chip that anyone can use to build and nothing. Like a pizza spearheading a Global Movement to democratize technology. Becomes part of the rubber series at this time. 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