Johnson has won the u. K. s bricks and general election having roundly defeated the Opposition Labor Party you have to go back to the 1980 s. To get a conservative majority this big the Labor Party LeaderJeremy Colvin has now said he will step down so what does all that mean for the brics it and can Boris JohnsonPrime Minister deliver on his promise to get rexs done this is inside story. Hello and welcome to this special inside story coming to you today from westminster here in Central LondonBoris Johnson knew he had to win and win big and win big he did the Labor Party Led by Jeremy Corbyn only had to get enough seats to form some sort of loose coalition with the Scottish Nationalist Party up in edinburgh they didnt even get close to managing that so Jeremy Corbin has now said he will go hell probably hang around however until april but Boris Johnson says he can deliver on bracks at that process in theory can and should he says kick off straight away with bricks it beginning to happen in january with a trade deal in the can done and dusted by the summer time his critics say thats impossible well get to our guest in just a moment but 1st rory chalons sets up discussion. After his election triumph Boris Johnson formed the formalities of power in this country cleared streets expensive cars and a Police Escort to Buckingham PalaceQueen Elizabeth the 2nd has asked him to form the u. K. s next government the conservatives have secured their biggest majority since 1987 johnson and his supporters are jubilant my friends come only ever wanted i think the only day we do it we pulled it off in a way we voted off we we broke the deadlock we ended the gridlock we smashed the roadblock and with this mandate and this majority we will at last be able to do what. Was paying attention. Hes very aware that this victory wouldnt have happened without many labor voters swapping sides your hand may have quivered over the ballot paper as before you put your cross in the conservative box and you may intend to return to labor next time around and if that is the case i am humbled that you have put your trust in me from the moment the exit poll predicted an unexpectedly large swing to the conservatives the tie flowed in johnsons favor thanks live valley in Northern England became the 1st labor seat to fall the conservatives won there for the 1st time since 1950 was a trickle became a torrent of working class former industrial heartland seats turning conservative blue. Thank you very much labor figures look stunned at the catastrophe engulfing them pleaded Jeremy Corbyn his bowing to the inevitable he will not be in charge for much longer i will not lead the party in any future general Election Campaign i will discuss with our party to ensure there is a process now of reflection on this result and on the policies that the party will take Going Forward its been a bad night for the pro remain liberal democrats to their leader joey swinson unseated by the Scottish National party in her constituency for millions of people in our country. These results will bring dread and dismay. And people are looking for hope. But some commentators worry about the tactics employed by the conservatives in this campaign Boris Johnson used all the tricks in the book and i guess its what i worry that every future Political Party will say thats the way to do it if you want to win and that actually over time will undermine our democracy and our ability to actually discuss big issues labor must now go through a period of deep and painful selfanalysis corben ism is being tested twice and its failed twice johnsons victory means the u. K. Will almost certainly leave the e. U. By january 31st you cant get breaks but what kind of breaks in reality it is barely begun. Johnson Withdrawal Agreement has a clear path 3 parliament but unless the threat of a no deal brechts it is to return he has to secure an e. U. Trade deal before the brics it transition period finishes in a year trade deals that big usually take many times as long. Now does era london. Ok there we are here we go lets get the thoughts of those guests joining us here in london kevin craig hes the Media Advisor and donor to the u. K. Labor party. Founder of trafalgar strategy and former director of communications for the u. K. Conservative party and in Staffordshire Gemma loons shes a Teaching Fellow of comparative politics a Key University a warm welcome to you all just coming to you 1st Boris Johnson called working people in this country drunks criminals and feckless they voted for him she usually whats going on writing more you see in the short term as a fundamental realignment in british politics and i think what was striking from this election when it took on a lot more president ial time and it was a 2 party race you saw the challenger parties fall apart and in it to some extent in very different ways you can draw parallels with donald trump Boris Johnson donald trump very disruptive. The titians theyve ripped up the political playbook and the normal conventions went out the window during this election you know just look at it in the way he dealt with the media bypass some of the main interviews went straight to market using things like Facebook Twitter instagram and was incredibly effective also that they what people need to understand is all for the 2017 election there was this narrative that kind of developed that kuhlman one we didnt win you know and if you didnt win then why was he going to win this time you know people dont want egg and chips dont try and serve the morgan ship so i think fundamentally its that i think the question often boris is obviously he has been given this mandate but what do you do in terms of a domestic agenda which has been sorely lacking over the past 3 or 4 years kevin what does it say about bricks it and what happens with bricks of that this kind of very simple message make America Great again get down get bricks it done gets you back into number 10. Well the simple message is work and labor didnt have a message or a lead could compete with what boris put forward i am still stuck at this morning a Prime Minister who ran into a fridge when he was asked to answer questions by journalists who snatched a mobile phone because he didnt like the pictures he was being shown of a hospital wards has been reelected with such a mandate but you know theres no getting round this labor couldnt handle the bricks a challenge where labor did really well i mean i saw Amazing Campaign scenes yesterday in london is because it was remain territory with clear remain messages in the midlands and the north just people were still they they wanted their vote in the referendum persist respected and we didnt have an answer to that and on top of that it has to be said Jeremy Corbett a very decent man who used to many good things in his life but people werent convinced by him and we got found out in too many areas gemma looms up there in staffordshire what does this say and what does it do to bricks it in terms of bricks it means that we finally have a little bit of service and say it means that Boris Johnson finally has a sizeable working majority he can use to ensure that his withdrawal deal gets through parliament before the 31st of january 2020 deadline and theres also another point that the brics issue as well that sports johnson now has a united party behind him every single one of the conservative candidates in this election promise to vote for Boris Johnsons withdrawal if they were elected to parliament so Boris Johnson is dealing with a very different conservative party in a very different holland now and he will make good on his promise of getting brett sit down and at least ensure that britain leaves the European Union by the 31st of january if that means that the end of the transition period and Boris Johnson will have to negotiate with the e. U. In terms of securing a true. For the december 2020 otherwise they could still be a no deal breaks at the end thats what does it tell us about Boris JohnsonPrime Minister and also Boris Johnson politician because europe is an issue for Margaret Thatcher did for john major did for David CameronDavid Cameron said if i lose the referendum i wont resign as Prime Minister but he resigned as Prime Ministers that i wont resign as an m. P. He went as an m. P. As well but Boris Johnson kind of sucked out some d. N. A. From the party injected himself and has turned the tory party into the bracks it party light maybe was and hes got a strong mandate now i think in terms of negotiating with europe as kevin said what was coming up and also people just get this done we want our vote to be respected for boris now the really hard work begins to be just talked about there about a trade deal i mean trying to get a trade deal in a year would be unprecedented the e. U. Canada deal took 7 years so you could have to really blow it up with the e. U. But this does strengthen his negotiating how we need to go in arnies going fast and crucially now is they need to get the right people on board for this trade deal that someone like Stephen Harper the former canadian Prime Minister has been talking to him about getting him on board hes got the expertise that down with the knowledge doesnt exist in whitehall and so you know its how do you deal with the e. U. What youve seen so far is negotiations is when it its very protracted they way down hes going to have to go in with a shock and awe strategy try and get this over the line of the corba knights blame next because they will wont they thats what labor does in this kind of situation well i think labor has to make real its pledge to have a period of reflection this is so im almost struggling for words right the worst result for the labor party since the 1930 s. See search field tony blairs former seat going over the conservative dollar this is just seismically bad and i think the labor party needs to take time about what happens next because you know we mustnt normalize whats. Just happened in the way that giles is just talking there Boris Johnson you know has managed to get this mandate we dont even know how many children the Prime Minister has got right these campaign is at a load of money from all sorts of sources across the world and yet somehow as charles has said they won now what does that say about where we are as a country how bad was our overall offering as labor that we couldnt be that i mean really so its good its someone called it this morning who i respect in london politics labors existential crisis and thats where we are and i think it will take you know at least 2 cycles for them to get back into power i know they were a very brief i thought a great in your opinion very briefly 20 seconds in a situation where the next good in inverted commas and im not editorializing or being political the next good labor m. P. Who becomes a labor Prime Minister maybe isnt even in westminster at the moment yeah absolutely. I think boris is going to you know is going to find that actually governing and getting this right and dealing with the fact that around this country youve got so many new conservative m. P. s who are representing areas full of People Living on the breadline in poverty you know and having to deal with the social consequences of his policies i think hes going to run into trouble but we have to wait and see right gemma can you help us unpack some of the numbers if we get a little bit granular what we know about the vote so far i mean there are still one or 2 late comers to come when it comes to the actual constituencies and who theyre returning but the votes for remain parties across the constituency is that we have to date come down to 52 percent of the vote for leave parties come down to 48 percent youre smiling you know what im going in the televised debate it was 5248 for Boris Johnson versus Jeremy Corbyn 3 in a bit years ago it was 5248 what is it with those not. Bers and the british political scene that we come down to this kind of. Quite honestly wishy washy way of doing things is always roughly 5050. I think it just shows that were still one credibly divided country and were not only divided over bricks that were divided over of cultural and identity issues now and thats one of the key features of this realignment the gels mentioned in may and be a short term realignment but weve seen a significant shift in terms of the traditional patterns of british politics in this election traditionally we know labor party the working class the conservatives are traditionally the party of the middle class but we saw polling data leading up to this election that was showing the conservatives consistently around 15 Percentage Points ahead of labor in terms of their share of the working class vote so we knew that this sort of breaking down of the red wall across the north wales across the midlands across the north of england was coming we werent entirely sure if it was going to translate into a large majority for Boris Johnson but we certainly knew that the conservatives are making significant inroads into previous labor heartlands so it does signify a really significant realignment in terms of the way that british politics works but were still very very divided the realigned now isnt necessarily in terms of economics its war in terms of values and the supporters in the north of england really feel as if the labor party no longer shares their working class values their party the big cities their metropolitan their support base is largely down in london now and the party just simply doesnt share their values the conservatives meanwhile with their values of trying to limit immigration strong or in Order National security quite a nationalist rhetoric is a Perfect Match for a lot of the traditional labor heartlands but also just we were being told giles that this was going to be the election of the woke generation younger people female people of color they were the socially engaged they got high of social media platform people see rates and yet. That didnt happen either you cant say if you break down the demographics you cant say this was a Young Persons election i dont know what the exact term out was for some of the young people but sonny that didnt didnt materialize at all. I think it has been astonishing in terms of what you see i think is that its a Constant Campaign what i mean by that is the new cycle just keep moving faster and faster and faster so every time you might have that one part you know i thought couple times tories had a couple of moments where like they could come unstuck the new cycle just take over and i think it is a constant state of campaigning thats also why the microtargeting of using facebook is more more important because if something is correct for a couple of hours. That passed the narrative as far as Boris Johnson is concerned and youll go in mr corbyn couldnt keep up because to pick up on your idea about Boris Johnson does that very thing of oh its 6 am were going to hit them with this when the push that weve got somebody on the program theyre going to do blah blah blah and then move on to the next photo op well i actually think that labor we could debate that this order i think labor actually had a very good Digital Campaign but if you look at the seats where labor really run into trouble its a good point giles fight about turnout as an as a broad example youre looking at these some of these middle and northern states 62 percent turnout 65 percent large numbers of people go missing in the seats where labor had really good results in london where sort of the results last night were generations of new young. You know black female m. P. s turnout 7576 percent and thats the issue the i think that laid out a very good digital game but i think that went over the heads of a lot of the people in west brom e. G. East where course we didnt help ourselves by selecting terrible candidates but you know we we missed this this there is a real issue i think is a really well made point about the working class traditionally and how we talked about aspiration and the next generation have a better life than the previous one jim. Lets discuss that idea of aspiration for a 2nd are we talking about a situation where Boris Johnson has got to kind of get ahead of the curve that might come in as a reaction after the honeymoon period when he has to say actually maybe i cant hit the july deadline for getting it all done and dusted and hes also from a domestic point of view hes got to be seen to be improving the lives of those people who have never voted conservative ever and probably never will ever again exactly and thats the really interesting perspective for the conservatives in this election is that they have gained a significant number of seats that they had never game before in their history people have voted for the conservatives in this election that would never even consider thinking about voting conservative before so in many ways Boris Johnson has got 5 years so hes got to prove that hes worthy of those votes in the trust that the police put him in jail do you understand it when people say of him his critics say hes not a one nation conservative his critics say hes a one nation coward he had 211 nation conservatives he in effect sacked them and their critics say theyve crawled their way back into the party no well hes been given a mandate by the british people i do think the challenge for him is how does he governors are one nation leader and he often heard him talking about leveling up you hear about the conservatives talking about rebalancing the economy for the Northern Powerhouse idea this is really his chance and has got to prove i think we probably will see is more or Boris Johnsons liberal tendencies coming up a lot when he was maryland a new tack back to the center given hes got such a strong mandate from the party now he wont necessary was need to be held hostage by those socalled hard core 20 yard g m ps and believes in bricks and boris just yet shes always thought it was a good idea and its a question of the quarter i mean i think i think you know i dont know i really dont know lets talk about the home nations in Northern Ireland for a 2nd point nicholas sturgeon from edinburgh gets on a plane comes down goes to number 10 and said mr john. I want to referendum and i want to this year be crazy to depend on grants and given the numbers how they are going to stack up in her favor how can he say no she had her once in a life time referendum in 2014 if you cant rerun the referendum not the result of 1st time and. He would be crazy are i was in government in a referendum is one of those french us divisive poisonous referendums he would be crazy to grant her the referendum why because of all the reasons. And also to this country need another referendum or 2 weve seen whats happened over the past 3 years what we need is a period of stability and calm and for him to carve out a very distinct domestic agenda should be optics surrounding what nicolas sturgeon wants now a completely different ok i take the point about yes people do want to go to the polling booths again but this is a referendum in scotland it is a different country it is i mean i mean theres a lot of alignment on this and other parties the Scottish Referendum it was a once in a lifetime once in a generation vote what the british people showed much as i am unhappy about is they dont want reruns of big referenda and yes the s. N. P. Its their one sort of their main their main policy but we are a country as a whole and we took that decision to scotland took it back then it wasnt the 1st out it wasnt the best of 3 gemma coming back to you it looks like for the 1st time in ever were going to get more nationalists than unionists out of Northern Ireland. Break that down for me how significant is that and why is it happening its one of the trends of the election really isnt it i think we could see progress that nationalism is a strong trend not only in england in terms of sort of forces english nationalism but also in terms of Scottish Nationalism doing significantly well as well and as you said the 1st time that a majority of states in Northern Ireland have gone to nationalists i think we need to see it within the context of the unionists as well the force of the day you pay in terms of their confidence and supply their with to raise a man i and the way that they have supported juries amazed breaks it day oh i think that theyve been punished to a certain extent for their role in that seat in the knowledge of dogs and westminster they were the t. V. Those in his seat so ringback we can say significant shifts occurring in terms of the rise of nationalism in Northern Ireland in scotland and to a certain extent in england as well so its not something thats limited just to know the na and its something thats former m u k y trent but it does have significant consequences for the union as a conservative in unionist Prime Minister it would be a western heard of to think that Boris Johnson could Grant Nicholas sturgeon a section 30 order d to hold another referendum but states and he would argue that they have a significant mandate Boris Johnson will probably come back and say actually still didnt receive over 50 percent of the votes in the general election in scotland but sturgeon will certainly be keen to say that they have the democratic mandate to take control of their own future and thats a very very compelling argument if you will still need the the ear of the Prime Minister and he was saying to you under the phone to you peter take hes got to have that conversation at some point because his predecessor theresa may gave him a bucket of money to get them on board she bought political kind of floating around and survival was the conversation should have more than ever to keep keep it to their word but i mean if he doesnt need them anymore i think given the ultimate take of mrs a freaking government a lot stronger man ive been. Moving from being a Coalition Government to majority government the difference is just immense you can move quicker its more stable you have less leaks coming out of the government theres a clear distinct agenda and sometimes in politics i think in 20 percent of citizens you know they can go either way its more about is making the decision and hes got that mandate and he can do that quick and you speech people around Boris Johnson say you know the one thing about him is incredibly decisive and thats what we need we need to be made because so many decisions have been shelved to put on hold during this whole hope rex impasse kevin whats the big 1st immovable objects that hes going to come up against when he says ok election back in the term im going to do it now get it done he he doesnt have an a facing him because he won hes won with the numbers ok he commands parliament in a way that we havent seen for decades he has a party united behind him. Our Parliamentary Labor Party is going to be in a state of high anxiety and reflection over the coming period the labor partys priorities are trying to. Get commitments on welfare or public spending but Boris Johnson this is why this is so depressing and it could have been so void did he has the numbers he has the numbers to drive through his agenda jim or do you agree with that analysis also is it easier for him not just because hes got this big majority now when he stands up at the dispatch box labor are going to be in disarray the lib dems are going to be in disarray so you can really really push for what he wants definitely itself is a yes significant sizeable majority of our strengths and the biggest that conservatives oppose its not the 7 and you are the opposition will be in disarray labor will need to take time to reflects and this isnt just simply a process of whos going to replace Jeremy Coleman is laid up its a battle for the heart and soul of the labor party its very reflective of the sorts of battles. That we saw in the late 1980 s. Following on from michael foots defeat in 1983 and as we know it took 14 years before the labor party moved back to the center left to allow tony blair to route to paris 1997 so that there is an existential fight for what the labor party stands for the already said that they are traditionally the party of the working class the working class feel betrays how delay them theyve all now do they want to reclaim the working class if they dont how can they do that or are they happy to try and position themselves as a metropolitan progressive Something City based Political Party that doesnt necessarily care about the northern heartlands anymore its something that the labor party really need to ask questions about that wont be solved simply by who the next leader is is a battle for what the labor party stands for what the labor party sees itself as and what sort of of support as it seeks is well just when you think you cant get any more peak brix it you have a general election and you get even more peak brix it gemma thank you so much that was gemma limbs up in staffordshire and thank you as well to our other 2 guests they were having craig and giles coming up and thank you to you too for your company you can see the program again any time via the website aljazeera dot com and for more discussion check out our Facebook Page thats facebook dot com forward slash a. 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