We listen to after the war saying your europeans go build you know the stage of you but we will not be with you we meet with global newsmakers and talk about the stories that matter on aljazeera. Im femi oke a a welcome to the stream this ramadan muslims around the world are being asked to stay at home this ramadan of this planet and this ramadan this ramadan im staying at home to protect our doctors nurses to protect our n. H. S. The british our suspicion rose its not that i am praying for the world im praying for the well for the world but from home. From home you can be a lifesaver protect our frontline start protecting our n. H. S. Protect our doctors and nurses and save lives save lives life save lives and you can do all of that by just staying home stay healthy stay out they are going to help save lives before i do if they are to protect us and save lives theres a. Bar of Ramadan Mubarak. Ramadan at home is a hash tag and also a campaign asking muslims who are observing ramadan to stay socially distant because of the krona virus pandemic but how is that going to work doesnt work you can tell us job by jumping into each you chat we love to bring your experiences into todays show but let me introduce our guests remedying corinne everybody so good to have you here. The beaner welcome everybody. Thank you well done will bark to all my names when you call him well im an elected member of the council. And to be a democrat and i want often paul the independent good to have you had our way to introduce yourself. And know everyone from about getting my name is the way that a lot of these i am or porter at the Huffington Post at based in new york city where i cover on a phobia social justice issues and the like and on a national level. Great to have you and finally joseph welcome to the stream tell of what he. Thank you karim everyone im just a longboard im a professor of quranic studies at the college of islamic studies at home i believe a university in doha and one of the contributing editor is an authors for the study koran good to have you welcome everybody lets start with a sigh did they say much preparation that goes into drama but the idea of observing it doing a lot down what is sad even like robina you stopped what is your preparations been like. Oh my parish particularly as the working mother has been very sick thanks that was preparing the household and the law down making sure that our immune system a boost to good. Making sure that we eating healthy is well im lucky because i live in the house i have a garden as well but i also have to support people who have been cramped conditions while i was crowded who are finding it very difficult to homeschool so preparing constituents making sure that theyve got access to support in terms of supporting their own families and also working with charities on the. Aid programs to reach memorable and elderly people who are very isolated and so for me what i found in preparing for me the most important aspect is that we should get all the time from a party its not just thinking about office but also about the people and the elections so in terms of the people making sure that those who might be learning the maybe feeling isolated we dont get this well. I mean im just looking at tweet that you shared a few days ago when you were talking about getting ready with your children your nephews and nieces preparing for ramadan must be close prayers streamlined and if the gathering is Going Digital we can find ways to be together that just if this idea of a digital ramadan what does that mean what if youve seen one week doing. Well for myself quite honestly say one of the experiences that a lot of people who embraces a lot better in life is they often dont feel as embraced by the community and and so for me there is actually me but somebody was running that said that it was one person was like theres a born muslim its like oh my god ramadan without going to the mosques every day and out with gathered for the believe or effort or any other guys theyre going to go no 1st time. This is a regular experience. Were going to come back to joseph hes going to is slightly challenging Internet Connection but we will come back to him does a tweet that joseph decide whether the dish and im going to share this with you as well as its about what you cool if tell which is the way that you break the fast at the end of youll find sting day and on this tweet this is what jazz is shed so what can we call it by a zoom is if done if you do move it will wait and if you have the disease like you might well yeah it was but it was 3 nights back just just in time what is it not how do you even do if top by billy zoom way to jump in it. Yeah i think at least here in the u. S. We see in this creation what weve got dear stars i think thats the terminology that are going for and its this concept of trying to write instead of breaking your fast at the end of a beautiful meola with so many of your family Members Around as i was at home where are the mosque where the dinner party that people are going to do it on line and so when you zoom zoom Google Hangouts and skype or work all day lets use that to come back and i think its a kind of jump on joe says when i was talking to one woman or or that i was doing not too long ago who had embraced islam later in my and she had have died on those communities to kind of help her feel that spirit of im a don and she words worried about the loneliness that she was going to have to go through this month and so one of the ways that shes going to combat it is to set up. Dar as if darwin every we want to call it every night with different brands and families and i think its a way to kind of feel a little bit of community during its and over is that reoccur. And i am going to say as a as as a somebody who shares an office with many wonderful muslims who observe ramadan obviously socially distant now of course one things i found every ramadan people do is that theyre sharing pictures of food that is salivating over that they cant eat quite yet but later so in that tradition im going to show rippin as if a big if caught up with my family im drooling right now about 40 family members digitally the food in my house was very real as you can see in chile that it looks gorgeous and so. Let me talk about something that actually is quite challenging and i fear that i want to bring in. He is a medical student hes in pakistan and in pakistan the most will be staying open and shut try to explain to us why that is what it is about pakistan culture where family so fiercely and to kevin as he so fiercely cherished that people would paps risk their own health and go to mosque. This is. This is. Is. Because if im wondering that the headlines from pakistan are incredible considering that many of us are practicing social distance at least physical distance whatever thief that were in what do you make of. Impact. On staying open it. Well i dont want to single out any one country but i dont think that this is necessarily a responsible move at this time one of the things that many people have not really understood is what is the actual or not that is the transmit ability factor of virus and and thats been debated and people have said oh its. You know some kind of scheme to get people out of the mosques and im afraid that some of that type of attitude has played into these decisions and this is something where it should be best to the medical experts and the. Scholars they need to say that this is an area where we need to advocate to those who have better knowledge of how such situations should be handled. How much guidance is how much guidance of the. Muslims around the world about how you should observe this unique ramadan where you cant get together as you would normally do you cant have fellowship as you normally have it will kind insist that. We have the Muslim Council of britain also a. Mosque should be closed government should not happen and i think that is absolutely right the government has also been part of council. Across the Political Parties as well there is one aspect that we should also talk about which is guidance and the. National Health Service and people who work in hospitals who are keeping off so i have a question from one of the m. P. s that i support. With a Different Number of politicians in the democrats but what she also me and it was very well should i. Mation about things who are working in hospital settings. Given direct information they can give guidance the ultimate decision has to be a Health Professional setting so that it doesnt impact on the patient protect themselves and it does pressure on the n. H. S. So there is. About sharing part. To. I guess i want to share this tweet with you it comes from nigeria and use of talks about. Communities in nigeria they cant do. Digital like they cant jump and he talks about the options that are left to sponsor programs for local radio stations so if you dont have internet and the connection is almost as good as yours if you cant connect in that way. How else can you connect. I think ive been seeing matt people who have been getting very creative and. Connecting in ways that are beyond the internet i talking to a few people who said that they wanted to go outside and reconnect with nature because this is something thats also emphasizing that they are talking about connecting with the immediate family members in your home right you dont necessarily have to go so far and wide and i think were seeing creativity in terms of how we practice saying the traditional elements of the faith and i think a lot of people are tapping into that now in jos that im sure you know better that mean terms of the practice of seclusion in meditation are big practices dating back to the prophets and theres something that a celebrated amazon and so i think its probably Something Else a lot of muslims are practicing this this month. Jones if. Thoughts on that one yes this is actually a very important point thank you for bringing it up yeah the opportunity is when you talk about connecting the most important connection that you made with in ramadan is the connection with god and with the koran and all of the other connections that we made should be viewed as as secondary to that and at times we get distracted by the social dimensions of ramadan from focusing upon its ultimate purpose which is that connection with. God with the koran and through that a cleansing of ourselves and the prophets custom was in the last days the last 10 days of ramadan to go into isolation and and to withdraw from society and and law perhaps it will be something that more people will be inclined to do in these last in these last 10 days because thats where the true spirit of ramadan is is to be found and its even in the quran in when it talks about ramadan its there doesnt say shot or psalm its. Its ramadan in which the core and was made to descend and the purpose of fasting is almost opening yourself off so that you have a space for the word of god to be instilled within you and thats made that connection while youve cut off all of these connections from the rest of the world. Im just looking at something that we shared with our audience our online audience in the austin if we had any essential because you let out say who are observing ramadan firefighter get a handle firefighter as a muslim firefighter and paramedic have adjusted not only by wayne p p personal protective equipment on every corner but also praying more at the fire station especially up to breaking my. Now the 5th in london and in the u. K. This whole. Observing ramadan when it is so difficult and so challenging for Health Workers right now and stressful and then on top of zach to be in the holy month of ramadan can you give us an example. Where i live in the hospital. For. Some of the health of. My constituents and when you wear protective protective equipment it becomes very hurt and it becomes very difficult hence the person who is in that situation must make the decision themselves as to what they can. They can fall but all of that if you break dont you must make sure that you keep up to date so. They do people that they have around them supporting them is fundamental but most important fundamental making sure that you will sell off making sure the people that you care for and making sure the environment many of them could be working in. That pressure within that unit. So they feel that. If that is the issue they are more than. Is the issue. I want to bring you in here because youve been working on a number of stories we read you finding islamophobia. Online because it is the month of ramadan for instance this headline here one of your stories anti muslim public and is seeping into the schools about the coronavirus can you give us an example. Absolutely i may think the important thing to note here is that unfortunately at our most. Global but its been prevalent for a very long time and so when the pandemic. Was a matter of taking advantage of. Peoples vulnerabilities of their fears of their very valid concerns and then using that to promote toxic disinter mation misinformation about the Muslim Community and it was a trend that ive seen and many places and different parts of the world but the 3 that are highlighted in that report was the u. K. The u. S. And in india and then in the u. K. In the u. S. We primarily saw the old footage of say last years that i want on of the ramadan beforehand and that being circulated on far right websites and by people who have a history of promoting anti muslim brother and saying look at these muslims who are not social distancing theyre still going to their mosques theyre still gathering etc and not only is that false because again were using old image here but theres a message that wants to abilify in demonize the muslims which is ironic of like robinas that because so many of them are on the frontlines are essential workers are out there riding the most most care and were seeing that here in the u. S. As well. Weve had another challenging point in the u. S. Where the President Donald Trump repeated that tweet talking about a disparity between the churches and the mosques and wondering if authorities were going to crack down on on the mosques and people gathering in the mosque was which is again information because the mosque have been ones that its not like they were planning to open they were closed from the 1st local and state and federal discretion where gatherings are fans its been over a month and in india its probably the worst case of islam a phobia weve seen like you said the mosques have chosen to stay open for madonna and before that you had a small missionary group who were still the humans about going out and gathering and therefore a number of cases have spread because of this missionary group and muslims face the consequences you had fruit seller you were banned you had a muslim man who died by suicide because he was vilified her being associated with this. And so the impact of this propaganda its quite real. This is so not about one thing yet just a piece guys want to say i mean we also need to when we put this on the context of coronavirus that originated in china one of the things that the whole of the spread of coronavirus has done has caused everyone to look away from whats have happening to the weaker muslims and and that has been an absolute humanitarian crisis and the chinese have just stepped up their persecution of that we are muslims and its something that muslims need to take into consideration if theyre worried about being walked under muslims because these are people in so many parts of the world that have it far worse than those of us who are able to participate in this conversation right here now and listen to it have. Im so glad you brought up the we can muslims because he chewed out audience that is the chanting about helping the poor she found she 10 dress says its hard for the poor to see if a cat doing this month with a lockdown because hes in social distance is distancing its its hard to say them genuinely this whole idea about how are you able to fulfill your charitable deeds doing ramadan if you cant go out and make meals full of people who are less fortunate than yourself. How are you able to do that. Well at the beginning that weve been involved with Different Community organizations and the most one aspect of this pandemic. From a bomb is that Many Charities most involved charities have already begun to make sure that they are creating infinitys to get out and distribute meals perishable goods as well to people particularly those who are very old to those one verbal people families who are often very isolated because they are in isolation due to quote 1 may have people who have. Contracted its 19 along until i have to give tribute to the people who are taking care not the funerals. Cmon ek thank you for being on each and with us says for those who dont have anything to eat ramadan teaches us to care remember the poor weak people wherever you are which reidy sic ways beautifully into Saeed Jaffrey and he is at Pakistan Police and he said this time this very unusual ramadan reminds us that we should be doing charitable deeds as muslims during this holy month of this. Number than under corn beingness allowing that the opportunity to do one of the essence of ramadan by empathizing with the poor we can do. We can head the needy. And impoverished communities by giving charity. Of grace. And we can stay at home and save the life of the poor and. God would be very happy but. We are observing ramadan so im just thinking he am josephs about the purity perhaps of a very different kind of ramadan where youre not working out how many dinners can i go to how many if does can i go to what are you going to night when you dont have the opportunity to meet up with your friends and your family how is this perhaps in hot saying your faith as a muslim. For me as a muslim i would say that one of the most important things is that really one of the main things that you also have in ramadan that a lot of people go to the mosque for is learning is knowledge and theres actually been. Proven reship of people starting podcasts and other things. On on you tube and other places to help fill the void its almost too much in fact sometimes theres so many things that i would do i could fill my whole day with them but this is something that i think might actually be a great opportunity for a lot of people and find ways to connect with other communities but i hope that they dont take place of what happens in the mosque and again that aspect of not being able to do charity in person is very difficult but again a lot of opportunities opened up such as launch is doing a good job of addressing a lot of that and giving us opportunities to practice it and a law when we are able to go back and meet a person people will be able to do these things more in direct giving in the way that it is our custom as muscles. Their way to live right at the very beginning down but see you how has it been so satisfied. I have to say kathy and and but i am blessed to have a home im blessed to be surrounded by family and not alone and looking for its making the most out of this man and listening to what my fellow muslims are doing as well. And 2 comments from trey said 2 different comments from twitter we have bhajan mashi the spiritual uplift will be minimal because they wont be charts for public lectures and other essential gatherings and then accentuating the polls to follow and he says i am feeling optimistic many of the early muslims themselves may have fostered in seclusion we believe the prophet mohammed peace be upon him receive revelation in seclusion let me leave you with a delightful picture it is a picture of the delicious if dog to know that you have been a shed with the how family digitally so im going to do that just the same to you you can send levitate over that and i all im going to say is thank you so much gas for being with us doing this ramadan i know that it is not the easiest thing to talk for half an hour when you are fasting but we really do appreciate you being an hour away debt joseph thank you very much indeed and thank you to you chief for giving all your comments into our show and if you are marking Ramadan Mubarak thats all for todays history i wish and see you next time i took. 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