A back seat will the president ial candidates ever hit the road and so their brand of politics to americans before the fall follow the u. S. Election on a just. Tension is running high in the democratic republic of congo protesters denounce the nomination of a controversial they got to head the Election Commission so how will this impact the Ruling Coalition and can any fallout be contained this is inside story. And welcome to the program im laura kyle the democratic republic of congo is braced for war violence after several people were killed in protests across the country on thursday thousands of protesters defied a ban on public gatherings to march against the nomination of a new election administrator. They kissed melinda raking previous polls in favor of the former president Joseph Kabila who stepped down last year after 18 years in office well bring our guests in just a moment but 1st this report from catherine soy whos following developments from kenya. Shooting started as supporters of president likes to see katies union for democracy and social Congress Party on a march in Kinshasa Police fired tear gas and bullets to disperse demonstrators trying to reach parliament you d. P. S. Official said Security Forces shot and killed several protesters others carried away the body of one of the victims a Police Officer was also killed a Police Station attacked and fire on stolen. The u. D. P. As forms half of the governing coalition in the democratic republic of congo theyre angry about the parliamentary nomination of the president of the Electoral Commission their cues wrong side manana of being part of the team that presided over offload election in 2018 has not publicly responded to the accusations protesters in march 2 Party Offices of the other half of the qualification former president Joseph Kabila is Peoples Party for construction and democracy. We are here to protest against this parliament they want to take us hostage we are not afraid of the police or the governor we are ready to die Joseph Kabila and his allies have destroyed the future of the country we do not want to hear of them we will kick them out starting with members of Parliament Tension and mistrust within the ruling. Coalition are threatening to break its supporters of the presidency the kabila led common front for Congress Side of the partnership seems to be in control and influential members want to impose judicial and political changes to the constitution to protect themselves whats happening when the coalition is causing chaos in the country the different parties need to agree the coalition cannot disintegrate i think its clear that theres no need for the coalition the president must be decisive if they dissolve parliament or break the coalition. The president recently rejected proposed edition changes that if passed in parliament in september would give the Justice Minister an ally to former president kabila more powers over judges and prosecutors some on a security doesnt have much but gaining power within the qualification but this protest is valid the fight doesnt end here theyll continue to speak out until their voices are hot katherine soy aljazeera. Thank. You lets bring in our panel now and joining us in london a key to talk them a politician and president of the Congolese Support Group in also in london vincent regime a associate director for africa at the political consultant control risk and joining us on the phone from can shasta alcatel congolese economist and political analyst if i warm welcome to all of you out there in kinshasa can you tell us whats happening there this friday afternoon whats the situation on the streets the situation with 3 of you. And some other you have acquired in recent you quiet quite limited. Farida is reporting large yesterday about the police is doing that or theres been a lot of tension hasnt there theres been as been Police Firing rounds protesters killed Police Stations attacked. Concern that this kind of tension is going to continue we all hope that politician who will take responsibility to stop talking among them and talk all these mountains because it cannot continue this way because there is a very negative impact not only on business but on People Security is work. To take hold particularly the iranian says that its very concerned about the lethal force thats been used against these protesters who is ordering police to shoot live rounds. Question very happy that the u. N. Has taken the position weve seriously condemned the use of force against expressing their rights because the titian of our countries give us the right to protest when we know. Those peoples are walking according to the law i think anyone using the courts or stopping them just press the freedoms is of breaching the rule and thats a serious opin theres a generation of abuse in the congo where Police Stations are use especially. Mr could be a lot of previous regimes if they used to the system of using force killings to really abusing the law breaching the constitution and also using a different type of intimidation to stop people praising them we condemn and have to stop people expressing their freedom and it is up to be taken more seriously our Moment Congress people want to see a more credible Election Commission weve been a generation for the past 3 elections we see all different forms of abuse during election corruption has been a permanent and a mystical be a lot of moments still leading to corruption system which is well composed in the we have. A live in these protesters are angry and they are the nomination of one sabah long as the head of the Election Commission i why would the National Assembly which is prone to be led choose someone who is so controversial and likely to spark these protests the read the problem will. Recover tickets for Election Fraud and today we pay the price of every very poor election because what is today. The marking of the. Assembly. Parliamentary. Is showing that. The majority by the street is showing to be in print and thats exactly where constitution is coming from ok events of this is a big test of hipparchus acadia i mean hes being called a puppet of below when he came to power he does have the power now to deny him along those appointments but will he use it. Absolutely i mean he from the beginning of of this power sharing government on the back of the 2018 alexion has been stuck in a situation where yes you all the office of the president but in fact the constitution of congo gives significant powers to the Prime Minister who is appointed by the president but needs to have the consent of the National Assembly so his Bargaining Power is limited from the beginning now when it comes to disappointment it has powers to validate the appointment of melinda he can hold off validating this appointment but he cannot singlehandedly choose to nominate someone else in her mission also remember that my londa was nominated not by the National Assembly but by religious representatives where as a layer of complexity to the situation National Assembly is here to validate the choice of the religious confessions when who made that choice in june well how shaky is this coalition this Ruling Coalition with these 2 forces appear seemingly oppose each other. Its actually a very weak coolish and and they do not have the same vision that dont have the same interests and their own aligned with the election in 2023 and ever think that doing is over the line with what the objectives of the everyone 223 unfortunately and hes not going to be either with the interest of the nation. For a 2nd so whether you see this coalition going horse. Regular in some concern and to be honest the coalition does seem to be. Ready to resolve the issue but they are more likely to create concrete we have to see the scenario before and just on the larger going to come to a generation where people never agree on some issues together the coalition of the moment is totally divided on the number of issues surrounding the caret coalition but going back to well my concern will be the most at a moment because we have to see this ability of congo coming into features the only way were going to have that is by having more credible election in the congo and to see people out of our midst it could be law being at a moment in the center of all these are closed he tried to embody hope for a truck toward a serious problem will never resolve this issue we can go through the background of this when he said you know mr could be law is that now personally we can pull him out of the senate in a country but hes the person who will never get far enough on the Prime Minister of our country he also the patient was appointed but is all willing the president of the senate this is someone who doesnt even know to value of democracy or respect of freedom is imposing corruption and theyre willing often for the dictates obviously the Political Party or generation of coalition which hes using part was to destroy the stability of the congo if not with the patient who choose to mr malone the. Let him hold having the space and them as the person to put it a bit rough some a lot of i dont know him personally but we can sit back one has been close friend of mr beale are so sick generation of Election Commission we have all the Election Commission to be independent clearly the message of our national Election Commission is an independent body will not have to get involved as a person should be appointed to lead Election Commission should be coming from the supposed site not up went about mr billow so we see generation off a bridge by mystical b. L. S. Regime and it is a political wheelings ok this is something will change the law becomes real did step down some 18 months ago but too was extent as he still wailed all the power behind the scenes so i think theres a lot of institutional levers of power that the program below can still real obviously they do have a large majority in parliament and as i said before this allows them to nominate a Prime Minister of their choice to help. Significant ministries and portfolios and Board Membership in state and companies for example there is also significant grip that the program in the camps still holds of the Security Forces part of the Security Apparatus is still largely controlled by general and there are closed because there are some of them are still under u. S. An e. U. Sanction and they do continue to have significant influence on her operations within the Security Forces and finance financially. The program in a camp also still wield influence. Through their control over several provincial administrations k l what what could be less planned in the democratic republic of congo is it that he is seeking to return to power in these elections in 2023. I think the most important thing started coming to understand is that we in a country where politicians are very much involved in economy issues. Which in all the rules and serious conflict of interest the reason why people are trying to control on their own voting process and trying to take control and turn 23 is just because of that big issue regarding the abuse of Economic Issues and the im not prepared to face the justice or to face any situation that can solve the problem d for everyone and you know if we want to change things in this country at a certain point we will have to go in the congo. Conflict resolution and make sure that we go through an amnesty but we have to start a new page with a new way of doing things in Public Service is ok but i could be less seeking a return to power. You never know the law says hes not supposed to but if they change the constitution he might be coming back and it could be one of the agendas but its not even full to be open but nobody stays and said nothing about it so ok ok so we would put people in the d. L. C. Allow communitarian time to power i said it would never happen and i will said again never happened prostitution of our country will be its been what we needed from getting back to power again and i know what needs to be as you used to another way of using different ways you use it but your often all the country breaching the constitution does the only way you can do and the killings to be a weve been a generation of people being killed you know country our nation is becoming normal by people being killed in a nobody knows what is happening we have to stop and all this issues been watching but the International Community last week or the last 2 days on the receive people being killed not only from the border country but different for. Off florida also been supported by some members of government and the general army of our country is the people close a friend of mr b. Look these are serious allegations and the International Community up to start putting in a call to no sleep the people being killed in our country when asking just for the respect of our country was sufficient and a couple also is a playing games but trying to introduce another will always in another way are you know election in our country that this will never ever prevents and vincent how closely is the International Community watching events unfolding there and the other thing they are watching but i think we also need to remember that this is a time of and then it was wide where there isnt the same level of International Scrutiny and the International Community is not as good he is as it was for example at the time of the 28. 00 election and so i should like this it is largely down to the congolese parties to work out a solution between their and there is no International Mediation in this case and theres no amount of international talks or involvement that will solve the current disputes between the 2 science alcan congolese parties work this out themselves before protests escalate significantly yes politicians are drawing to their purpose but to the way to go we probably un and never even leaders should be able to support them and get people to talk because they cannot keep going the way to go in we dont want to go in a civilian war but how can people come to the table when you has moves like getting on saddam along the nominated as the head of the Election Commission when theres moves people say to muzzle the judiciary i mean its hardly creating the right atmosphere for the 2 sides to come and sit down. I do not think they have a choice because the truth of course limits are we dont want to be people to be killed we have already 3 people dead yesterday no i dont think we will continue i mean the situation telling us all to have to stop this and they have to talk ok to how strong is the 2nd as a leader you must remember that he didnt have very much experience when he came to power he basically rode in on the tails of his father at c. N. N. He has just said he stopped the muddling of the judicial reforms he potentially will stop the appointment of this new head of the Election Commission how is he proven to be as a president. I think it is a number of ways you just look at the oberoi plane its doing its best i know the complexity of the situation and the coalition is walking away is not a very easy if someone was to get obviously no vision and i agree with him on a number of issues but as the number 3 shot and i agree with him at a moment things troubling on many issues that i feel like we should have a different way of dealing with but overall speaking now we have to say we have to think of the generational the stability of the country just acadia the moment were going now what political its not just having some center of power or not being the president all institutions are ruled by mystical below and it is the person appointing old is the only person at the moment was given the power to anyone in the congress and people got behind the same want to. Take in people like the small children when you take an older and the telling them what to do you know simple terms go to reality or run peoples our time here lawrence something have to be done its a National Community involvement it will be to our best to be sick of the law is a criminal we have a serious of each generation for using the power of the fist people ways of destroying the value of democracy in the future the belief of this is someone whos well known but International Community recently we see a number of. The farm from canada and the support. To dubai Police Organization asking for justice to be done and we are all equal to National Community to do some investigation to look at the law is a risk that is of imminent ok no supporter of what the real events are again a great threat that over to you or whatever when you lose all those you arrest Joseph Kabila now absolutely not and i dont think that thats you know on the horizon i think you have to be in a is is no part of our ability of congress or the time being either to have this power regime power sharing agreement that he has with which is a good if there is absolutely no attempt from from any one you know to to indict mr kabila let alone try to arrest him and i would simply be infeasible today in the context of congo i think what works in the favor of stability is really for i missed a good deal i missed that you security to hammer out a compromise on this because when it comes to the appointment of the Electoral Commission when it comes to previous disputes weve had recently a controversial laws for judicial reform we still see the 2 leaders come together and being able to work out some compromises that they face both camps and at the moment i guarantee a certain level of stability however shaky that is that is essential that this continues for or the been a day of congo for the next few years. But its you know Wishful Thinking to to expect that kabila power in congress will diminish in the next few years if for the 2023 elections yes because those are the country isnt it that that needs a strong government al with all this political fighting in kinshasa any thought to get the rebel fighting in the east that cause more than a 1000000 people to see their hanes this year alone how much does that get forgotten. Its true that we need a very strong. Government but unfortunately when you look at the coalition its all about 2 leaderships of the same size and with either not gender and today people dont even look at the face of the term derivative of their decision their political options is to start a loan for to until now by these companies 19 is to another problem we need actually for the government to be very focused but you see were not in for now and people really must evolve into the agenda 2023 and these what they call politicians in. Political leaders. Giving advantage to the general interest of the country of the citizen thats exactly why there is a serious conflict between the people in the land and the street. Would you agree that a key issues like the fighting in the east the economy corruption burleigh now corona these are all guessing forgotten mystify thing we have to definitely agree on now on some of these you listed no employed at the reality anywhere because something in a cold war a lot people take much longer but we can believe people we are aware that the situation in the congo has just been introduced by another way of people doesnt want to stability we name a few but i can tell you we still got a ball and paul was all east of the cause been really a place where nobody would be happy to leave on those people have been a victim of a generation of abuse and lauren i insist on this is a clear at a moment they could be a lot doesnt want to give just spectating a power to the army and the peoples are killing civilians east of kabul they are most likely to be part of the army of the whole so the sort of the laser will be generational criminal we have to start walking with the reality of what we call in the International Community this is some International Big asian we are supporting him quite a coup has. Already signed the treaty to be part of an International Obligation we hopped on it with a lot other more macaulays our pride because a small group what criminal law taking a country in a hostage hoping the value of democracy to be restored and the people to spread them so it has been using the powerful past e. T. E. Of dictatorship alchemist below everybody know what Police People be going through personally im talking for the n. H. S. Yeah only 10000000. 00 people still live in exile with also country being able to go back to jail or convert or even to be audited by the regime then say im going to get the last words youre going to throw for 2023 can then make a pot congo hold Credible Elections to bring a strong government to power and i think 2023 is still a long time away and the pace of Congress Politics is such that its very difficult really to jamaica a certain judgment on these elections in our lot will depend on the senate and the Electoral Commission appointments and whether i missed them along the is concerned or someone else indeed takes office a lot will depend on the prospects for the coalition between cash the courage because the side and yes this is the probability side and also a lot will depend on the strategies of different leaders as the chief because he will almost certainly seek reelection as we discussed before will miss the good or one is not right has back and the rest i think will only find out very very shortly before the election in 2023 what is more concerning is that in the 2023 still 3 years away there is a lot to do in congo where there is a backdrop of coronavirus severe economic damage that and then make is causing and all of these political intrigues are distracting everyone from finding solutions and trying to bring the country forward on many of those issues the risk is that this. And this constant political intrigue will just continue in the next 3 years many find it difficult place for investors. Challenging. Actors seeking reform and generally. The prospects for growth and development ok ok such an interesting discussion many thanks to all our guests for joining us today. And of instant regime and thank you too for watching you can see the program again any time by visiting our website thats aljazeera dot com and a further discussion to go to our Facebook Page thats facebook dot com for slash a. J. Inside story you can also join the conversation on twitter handle is at a. J. Inside story from me more of heil and the whole team here its by. Countering the cost of war games in the South China Sea washington sends an Aircraft Carrier is beijing flexes its military and economic muscle by jury gets ready to export gas as big war prepares for a post prove it world plus global remittances plus country but cost on aljazeera. 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