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Just over 2 weeks ago, ethiopian Central Government launched a military offensive against a local warring party Prime Minister, abby ahmed, accuse that party the tea p. L. F. Of attacking a military base. The t. P. M. Left dominated ethiopian politics for decades until abbey came to power in 2018 when the party in 1900 been persecuting them, and purging them from government and the military. The conflict is centered on the ticker, a region which the t. P. M. Governs. According to the united nations, hundreds of people have been killed and thousands of refugees have fled into sudan. Assume much to talk about today. We have a humanitarian disaster, the t p l f. And the roots that if you go to peace, if youre watching on you, and you want to be part of this conversation, jump into the Comment Section to my, sorry, best get your comments into today. Let me bring in todays guess i will say hello to them and they will introduce themselves to you. Welcome back to the street. Well, remind, remind everybody who you are and what you do. Think youre fighting with and im from washington. This network for a second rise, its good to have you back in the stream as well. Please remind everybody you are and what it is, its nice to see you again. If i meet someone is a kind of salon and im a freelance journalist and i write primarily for its mail and guardian and the telegraph. I miss a bet edition sell to our global audience. Thank you very for having me. My name is, miss m. But i said, i teach art school through some professor and i write on politics and law. Thank you. Its good to have you hate gentlemen feel so welcome. Today i spoke to belaying celia, shes the press secretary for Prime Minister of the up next week in our conversation with talking about some very key issues about what is happening right now. Including when a Peace Process might start. This is what she told me. The Prime Minister and the federal government made a decision to make this operation, this rule of Law Enforcement operation, the degree region there were 3, actives and one of the critical objectives at this point is to disarm the g. P. L. If they have been in possession of weaponry, and there has been efforts by the n. D. S. To disarm them or radio to the position and to make targeted military strikes on where the you are not of the arsenals. So this is a priority right now, and also part of the prior increased also bringing these perpetrators to justice. So once that is that the plea and ones that are in government command, then the negotiations and the other on recessions could happen because there has been a beary track record on the part of the Prime Minister to dialogue with the p. L. F. And it is not as the International Media or in the National Community is making it out, which we have to be very careful about. That narrative is that there has been a continuous transgression of the part of the champion of 2 or right or into any of the m. P. Of that have been made by the federal government and personally, by the, by the Prime Ministers wife decries a couple of things jumped out at me from that conversation. One was rogue elements, the other ones been perpetrating justice and in the 3rd was putting the blame for the conflict very firmly that all of these rogue elements of the t. P. M. Neath what stood out for you. World whether they are a rogue elements or not and im not, i dont see there, there being any space for the dialogue that she says will follow the end of the conflict, considering that the tibial has been completely outlawed as an organization. All of its members face arrest simply for being affiliated with the organization. So whether its the rogue elements or whatever remaining elements there might be. It is very clear that there wont be any space for dialogue. There wont be any space for any roundtable talks for things like what might the future of to growing be what will its place in egypt in society be after this . How will you know, how will the various political entities rehabilitate the 30000 or so europeans from to graduate, fled into neighboring sudan. There as there is a loss that remains to be discussed. Wasnt addressed in her one or 2 minute briefing, that she is 11 recently had to really had to we had a much longer conversation by thought at the moment. This idea about when peace may actually go, since it was very important. And which is why i wanted to, in particular with you miss a bet with the idea of there being friction between the government and the Regional Government. If the t. P. M. Left, this is going on for such a long time. Why are we now in a conflict . Well, there are many reasons i think, why the conflict it was obviously as you know, the e. P. Out of dave, which for them and it was so hard to cross and which that g. P. L. If was it part there would be to about 4 or 2 years. It was a very brutal dictatorship and it had very serious human, massive Human Rights Violations that have made very serious corruptions out in my sleep scale. So as you know, but before 2018, there were many protests in many regions of ethiopia for demanding for political change in the country that happened only asleep at the pierre de, if had lost any, you know, ideology, kind of out of its great state and coming into part of the yamit in 2018 was exact to create a kind of a new kind of put excited dispensation in the country. Trying to have to resort to some of the deep seated problems in the country. So owned quietens that for them as, a p. R. It gave continued new prosperity parties at mr. Abbey homage, formit. And typically every 3. 00 to 2. 00 mechelen. So its significant that in difference in terms of how they want to resource deposits, cutlets in the country, thats where its at that will basically sort it to people. If it was not ready, its very tragic. I mean, for more than 40 years of political support, its very existence in this country. It has never to have to reorient itself to change in some kind of political change, which the country needed actually, urgently sort, little and on any idea, put ideological change. If you see even that person, the people that, that leaves his party for 40 years as a state. So its really breaks my heart because for anyone or observing that what if you could change in the country in egypt was ordered for the lines. The country in the country, you know, change was needed and damage was on this appearance as an Answering Service at our strength in july. You dont change by, i hear anything or as he says, listening to you as well. This comes from him. How does that add new chief . Thank you for being part of this conversation. Nelson ethiopians with us today, of course, is the now it is t. P. L f. Is the aggressor in this conflict, correct . Does the t, p l f. Have any genuine grievances aluna you pick up without one place. Ok, well, in fact, the provocation was made by the federal government for the last 2 years. It has talked to dry roads that connect originalist for the rest of the country was broke for 3 years. And there was disagreement between it behoved, if hes ordering the party and forming a collision, a new coalition party. So that means if i dont say that the belief has provoked an end to the conflict that we are witnessing now, i dont even agree with what precisely 30 off the primaries to try to claim calling this conflict. Law enforcement operation is a drug for me. What is transpiring on the ground right now as we speak is actually a civil war, a civil war expanding to a regional conflict that in what was the Syrian Government . , now we have heard the u. S. , the album art of being a villages into guy using dross. So we can, you cannot say like this, this is just a Law Enforcement operation that has transplant for the last 2 weeks, almost now on the 3rd week. So there is, you know, distortion of facts. What we are always missing right now is kind of nixons easy to answer, not a little refined. And you know, if i may, im going to bring in another voice because another voice from outside of ethiopia, 90 aspirins, is very vocal in this conversation. Its very hard for us to get forces from, with in ethiopia, because of this ongoing conflict that outside, whats not split the pinion secret. And this is what she told us about what is happening right now in her country. The war thats been waged against the people have to go is having a devastating effect. People are fleeing their homes in the thousands to the sudan because theyre being indiscriminately bombed because theyve lost access to basic needs. What were seeing here is an impending genocide. We need to all speak up, we need to use our voices, our platforms to speak up against war because no one is going to benefit. So could i assume the journalists point of view, which you really sickening to, theyre looking at a genocide, is this civil war or is this war . How would you define the aims . Well i think over the past 2 weeks there have been a number of claims and counterclaims us to exactly what has transpired in ethiopia. What was the instigating cause for the military clashes . Broke out on november 4th, first thing for us, there are no internet or phone services to the entire region. So there is absolutely no way to independently corroborate the claims that are left, for instance, just made. And what we can say is this is that for war it takes 2 sides to tango. And the to grain in general, going to chorus of the guards of made no efforts to cool things down. Or we have, we have one of the insides more than 50 or in size until imprisoned. And you know, this side of guilty of exacerbating the tension there of every other nations. And when theres a lead to war, it will require it required both sides. The objectivity and there are some rising starts, so uncompromising stances are one of the great sides of mention between media or not Regional Government and the great and the federal government in addis ababa. So hopefully with the restore ition of internet services, over the course of the next few weeks, maybe months, a journalist will have a better chance that are determining what led to what and obviously the breakout of the horrific a military conflict and the, and so in humanitarian disaster movies, but im up to 99. Terry and i mean theres a point to, there is a new and in that i am clearly just going to gun point and im going to go yonder in atlanta man because i know what is i dont want dollars something in 1500 hours or so to you has more than 51000. 00 in prison right now as we speak in our days. How are you going to justify this one . As i think i will exact records for another. Not sure if i do anything, im sorry, im not, i really, really, you know, generally i dont, i usually have interviews where i was, i dont know not you really cant or isnt much of a sense to tell them. You can also find out if youre all talking at the same time to school time out, or write a new finish, just a sentence. Ok. Ok, we have this concrete evidence from the interNational Community in the International Media was a sort of 2000 civilians have fled their country and crossed the border to sudan. There are suffering from humanitarian crisis right now as we speak right soon. I seen that save lives, and i dont, im going to corroborate that with what i have here on my laptop that i can share with him since hes the head of the u. N. And thats the uns refugee agency, more than 25000. 00 refugees. And while frankly, the tikrit region of ethiopia to seem damn mess and that this speaks to the issue with military action and the impact that has on civilians tool to us about exactly how per pan. But its the federal government to take care of civilians. Well then doing this hacky on where theyre looking for perpetrators and bringing them to justice in their words. Yeah, its very tragic. I mean, we should not be very objective of whats happening and when there are bad things, obviously we should be very sympathetic to the state. I dont think we should always to excites, you know, one in this kind of conflicts. So its really breaks my heart to see more than 20000, people out of, you know, refugees now currently going to sudan and mostly to grandstand or so some had us as well because the border area. I dont you know, how boys ethnic groups living got around here sort of, its very tragic and the, the condition integrate is very tragic because this particularly, you know, is it, you know, its complex for many years. I myself, my family leave in 2000 part of to great. My family fought lives. Time part of my family fought for many years, was a political coup for many years. So we feel very sympathetic and, and of course the government should trade as much as its country, great humanitarian support, and provide humanitarian access. But nevertheless, i think we should not all those claims of genocide claims of it. It can sink. I mean, i would be responsible. What if thats what its our position. Im not, not at this. No, no, no, please please. You know, were not going to cause a lot of this is not going to do justice or is it people have to go . Im still here. d its not the only judge and ill give you the last and the young to care about the people of the aggressive gentle has to sit down, have some clarity of yes, im a citizen and this is not going. Im going to wait on, you know, that, you know, you dont like this because it is the out of line. I am going to break. You are not for a moment the way you see it because were going to let you come into this conversation as well. Marise marise, make a point, you know, you did not finish your plate in the finish watched in there, finish, you know, finish your sentence. You know, my point was that i will have to. Yeah, i am just saying talking about ethnic cleansing, genocide is absolutely out of the picture. This is very dangerous and you neednt, and i have like i have even though you were at the end of the conflict, i did that. Dont belittle ways about the area like me, just bring him, are slim, bring him us. We call mississippi a conversation with our audience as well. Morris says, do you think the marginalization of the tea, great people, parenthesis, which i dont agree ever happens, and not justification for attacking the minute she front, stationed in the region and stealing military weapons . How are you going to just defy the killings by the army in the thousands of the country . Will i for example, 75 civilians, innocent of being killed by the military thing one day. And how are you going to just fight just before todays 7, or was it me or i must have been killed by the military in the area of the leg up in a district called i feel how are you going to justify this . Is it because the army was attacked in initiative only 300 times. Ok, i said are you there inside our nation is letting Syrian Government you say come up here is a, it will have to be objective. You know, you have to take your pick your, i dont know what you can handle. I dont know. You dont get a lot. You dont have to answer. Yeah, i have my own always going to look at him. I can guarantee you. I know youre just really hot, but just my family, you dont even look, we dont know what we dont know what it is and is not moaning. You can also learn and please what we hear is that you come through very distinctive points. We hear that i dont hear every word youre saying, but we hear that your very many disagree with let me push but we kind of give you a side so he points, you know what perhaps, and i do not see him a very so. Yeah. Gentleman young enough to have needs in this show. I do not want to waste moon. Ok. Its concerned about how we get to peace. I walk my it happened if you 2 are war inc, this in conversation and theres a regional war going on in ethiopia. What is if you are going to look like, by the end of it, hes a 1000000 songs and we are 5th through that kind of that a bit more or its all going to come for one of the greatest, quite a body of me that its likely its going to be for some time, if their order are gone for a longer period, i fear that there will be a massive humanitarian crisis. A mighty good economy with you markets of the country. Really vendor for your guy who does internet. If theyre going to, how survive this conflict . I dont think i dont see the figure continuing. I was a variation of this secor i asked the vet isnt a concern. So when i spoke to Prime Minister sufis was, was not even on their radar. Was like, thats never going to happen if you will Stay Together from the sources that youll go into the picking up. What are they saying about the future at this point of your country . Well, i mean, i guess thats the crux of the problem, isnt it . Its not even on their radar. I think we need to come to grips with the fact that this war will definitely have a do a sitting impact on the social fabric of the country. I mean, were hearing reports of atrocities. Mass killings in towns like my cut there are from refugees who are landing in sudan. Meanwhile, in the capital city, only days ago, youre seeing parades, and near celebrations, calls for outright support of the military, despite the relative impunity with which they are conducting their operations. Are there is the sympathy that mettenberger referred to, thats of all the other words, we need to realize that there are communities suffering there entire population of suffering. There, there in there are, there will be, there will not be any winners in this war. There will be a lot of losers and theyll be a lot of heavily impacted populations. And we shine a concentrated effort to try to sort of relieve them of their agony. Not even in terms, not even in, not even in next. In words, not even there have been and there hasnt been any open express of solidarity cause for restraint from our own armed forces. And this a guest shows how the viewpoints of under different communities can trust a great leader. And i think the concerns are expressed are and are, are based on, i mean theres, theres a way to these claims, i would say, so really go to my laptop here, gentlemen, because i want to show you some of the International Concern that im seeing right, now. Since this is the u. N. , a high commissioner for human rights concern here about there should be a ceasefire. This is prism 70 of uganda. It is an ethiopian. If we dont come to some kind of peace agreement, the entire continent of africa, it have a bad image. That tweet was deleted. And then this is from the African Union. But i believe even when you delete a tweet, you probably still mean this is when the African Union in africa need in our asking for the immediate cessation of hostilities. And then from the Prime Ministers own account meeting here, with officials in rwanda thinking about peace and security. So International Forces that are involved are concerned. Im going to ask you briefly maisonette. What difference does that make to a Peace Process . It doesnt make it here is a difference, i think obviously with if this war drags on for a longer time, obviously the International Pressure for a peaceful settlement would, you would be much more greater because obviously the humanitarian situation in the ground would be a little catastrophic. Saw it all depends on how manageable this conflict would be if the federal government, as we hear it, if the advice and if they try to neutralize the situation much earlier, then the distortion would be much to cover. But obviously the concern of the interNational Community is very understandable because of their tragic for many reasons. Its a country of more than 110000000 people, People Security wise, it has significant ramifications for the entire region. So these concerts are very understood and but of it, the problem is, and i know you talk people talk about peace. But the problem is people, it has only a bad name, and im sorry to say this because so many better ones. I mean, im not living that i suppose as you very few lay down until i know your family safe. Were right at the end of the show. And gentlemen, if you would allow me to wrap it up, but im going to do that with a voice from the t. Gray community here. Feel that their concerns are not being that. Have a listen to tekla. According to these, to express my support to the, to go people and government who are at the war against a dictator who has been destroying bombs on them. Killing, according to reports of hundreds of people and subjecting people in the thousands to flee to neighboring countries, likes to call on the interNational Community to step in and of heard a crisis if left unchecked, could send the whole new puppy got into the darkness. Im going to give the last voice to after a vibrant community on this conversation, not goes to his rainy. She says its while to think that abby achmet just won the Nobel Peace Prize in 29. 00 t. And within the year were discussing intense conflict in ethiopia. Gentlemen, im going to rest areas to save lives, being very serious conversation. Thats very and i think thank you very much on vibrant conversation. It is not over yet. I am taking new audience to Instagram Live and let me tell you, im going to go there with sam. Do you really . Who is from Amnesty International and you will find us at a. J. Stream . Its super life from wednesday. Thanks for watching everybody. 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