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And the last one has declared the state of emergencies we 60 days throughout the country following the assess the nation and president ial candidates. But none of the sends you stay without just era over development. The history of activism is now the 1. 00 fee generation believe it is the time to fight for more people in just society. Welcome to generation change a global series and attempts to challenge and understand the ideas to mobilize around. So im and that chinese and independent journalists to base your independence. In this episode, we need to limit for working towards radically changed to address challenges is very that tend to be silence plots and racial inequality and Climate Change. The kids and miss aol point off to 94. 00. At the end of a pot dates, what do you think people dont know about the role of women in the struggle against the fonts . Its, i really think the way in which history is told serves a purpose, right . Which is also to reinforce, you know, a male dominated, a presence and power structure, right . Basis, reinforcement of these marches, right . These men who come and save this valuable group of women, which has inheritance. He rode and falls, women organizing treacherous stuff, sales, trade union. Women wouldnt literally be carrying the country and the bats and shoulders. However, history continues to make that. And i think what that does is that it continues to pres uh, alienate women, and their contributions and making society with a political, social, even economic. The boy here at the constitution hell into, hadnt spoken, particularly in the structure. Were at the womens jail. Why was this a significant space for you . What i think about the caliber of women that we incarcerated in this place. You know, it literally just brings me in or its the persistence of women writing themselves in into history even in the absence, right . And for me is a young female as, as a l x who was that has been really political in crowned in my own activism as a new generation. As the woke generation, we must never, ever get tired of developing resistance strategies. I mean, if these women were able to organize themselves, i know probably one of the most difficult conditions. I see no reason why were unable to achieve, you know, the idea of bullying. The biggest feminist global move you are now 26. Weve been active since he was 17. What was the sort of compelling fact that made you think, you know, i wouldnt be and there was a case i go by the name of, i mean voices and waste in cape. She was making to take your entry or she was like, oh my gosh, im susan teen. Shes 17. She was killed on the lights out and i was thinking about all the times. I like to jump. Okay. No, to go out with my friends. Right. That happened to you didnt happen to meet those just so much you, me close in similarity almost a decade later in the im the, you know, the chan found of the black women. Cool. Cuz the, the was the features. 2 what ultimately black women focused seems to do is to really create a society feel like we dont want to move this violence, present society all the time. We want to be comfortable. I mean, im please like, i want to be able to hold on this piece, which i had is great and not to worry about m. I did the 70. And youve already been an activist for 2 years now. How did you start . And what was it that may just so started in 2018 when we would cost to do some research on how to change. I do a lot of cabinets, itc, movie, facts about how we have limited time and watching live future fade away as houses, all environment, the kinds and what it is nice is my activism was the society to do everything in my power to create, to change the well, i mean, some people will say that, you know what, this stuff is for people who can afford to have 5 different bins and recycle. But, you know, youve spoken to the fact that it does affect people who, you know, live in the townships, 4 people. The 1st time i came to realize the seriousness behind environmental racism that i spoke to a friend of mine who said when she was very young. Uh, she had to live with a grandmother. We stayed into waco and we say she develop of reading difficulty. And if he is doing, she moved back to the service, everything was fine. And thats when she made the link back to the equality as a way to was so terrible that she developed asthma for that. And you can make that link with a prostate how the composite government basically im suggesting for one area and invisible another area. And how do you prefer one a and gave life people that land that belongs to the citizens, that they just, im kind of areas. And even though we live in a close to politicians, africa, that neglect is so carried out the what has been rewarding and that you would consider, you know, big or small in achievement that youve been able to kind of get to with your, with so far as a smaller treatments that make a big impact in my life is when someone will come to me personally and say thank you for teaching me this. Ive learned and now i know bit to and now i can do better. I think the biggest challenge i also just thinking after i purchased a lot of activists around the world doesnt have that privilege and the space is the same line. So being able to stand up in front of college and think your mind is supposed to be a privilege. And also if they get you when you, once again you prefer listening, youre the person responding to come out in articles. The sarah, youre 17 and keep them into your 26. Im wondering for both of you what you feel be defining values and elements of each of your respective generations activism. So okay, um, so 1st key i belonged to the 1st cohort of the born fries. You know, the generation that was just born of the democracy in south africa and i think for a large, you know, to a large extent, our activism is really centered in crowded around holding, you know, our democratic governments accountable. Right. Hoping for a significant change in the Living Conditions of use and just the population more broadly. So we do borrow a lot from the end to a Party Struggle in terms of the music, the songs of kind of the struggle songs that hes saying. And also some of the organizing and mobilizing strategies, you know, we really still focus intends on mess Space Movement body. And this is quite evident with the fees most full student protests. You know, across 26 institutions of higher learning, which saw University Students demanding for free the colonized higher education. But of course, you know, the success of, you know, moments such as fees was for a launch the attributed to digital an online activism. And how that has also helped us in terms of shaping our own narrative and sandra, you know something if ive read what you, what would you like to add . Yeah, i didnt z, we grew up in the age of technology, the world of social media. And that came with a lot of benefits in terms of with mobilizing people internationally, and especially now during a pandemic. What social media is also brought is lots of inclusivity because you moving away from just said main stream media narrative. And you embrace thing at a diverse range of narratives and you getting to include so much more within your activism. So i think the inclusive a team that social media has brought has been a key and defining factor with kinsey. So that, that as most recent used to lead to Mass Movement was fees, muscle which, as you mentioned earlier, was the fight to you know, gain wide access for free and de colorized tissue education. What do you think it was about that movement to get them into that made it resonate so widely with our generation . I think a big part of fee is most full beyond issues of x is, was really holding all governments accountable to say, to what extent are you prepared to sacrifice an upcoming generation of young lead as an active is purely on the basis of you know, keeping openings, deliberate about keeping it commodified a couple, a couple to and as a race has a system that continues to marginalize and exclude lex children specifically from institutions of higher. Let me say a, you about 12 was 13 when this was unfolding on the scene of the news media. What did it mean for you on a personal level to see young people really, you know, rise up on such a mass scale. It was really inspiring and was watching history and fold red before my eyes. And while i didnt understand how the, how complex the issue was back, then i understood the surface level of it. But diving into activism the season was, will active. So one of the most inspiring activists that i look up to, they give you permission to be angry as well. Yes. 100 percent. And like i said before, that and good just ignites of passion to stand up and fight me, get them into your as you to, you should say you are the found a, in fact of the black womens quote switch among the many mandates you have um, is looking into eradicating to interface 5 minutes. Can you talk to me about the myriads of silence . Is that so African Women right now are facing . I mean, when they speak about the base violence, of course, you know, the mostly needed understandings around 6 within physical forms of violence. You know, and this is, and this makes sense. I mean, south africa seem as a real capital globally, not a pretty tight to have on, by the way, i will say, besides rates as 5 times higher than the global average. Right. And so understanding around doing that is allison simms. I was really being within, you know, that conceptual framework, however, as black women cool, cuz were saying that it is a to says is for us to reduce gen, a base violence and fame aside to only physical and sexual forms of violence. You know, political violence, economic violence, environmental violence, social vinyl. Oh, violence of the country pizza, the vulnerabilities of women. And its important that when we find solutions and we proposal who says that they must be multi pump, and they must be caustic. So, so that theyre able to address the sources of silence. So can you give me an example of what that work looks like or how you bring the solutions to the public . Of course, a lot of the steps and Research Done in south africa around tend to be silent, has attributed to a womens economic participation as a mess of time along the ability to get into based violence and family side. So in 2019, on the 13th of september, when we march to the rich a square mile in africa and sentence demanding greater participation from private states in terms of, you know, their response to getting the same silence or ultimately saying you need to also be able to do you need to be held or comfortable for womens economic viability . Because logically, when we think about raping fame aside, we always think abided within the consignments of the whole. Right . But the moment we made it a business issue and economic issue, were ultimately saying that the continuous subjugation and violation of women number one cost the south african economy between 20 and 40000000000 red annually. Right. And that also means that part of our app to that part of our mobilization and advocacy requires us to make structural changes. Sandra, it looks like you had something new and yeah, 100 was in it need systemic change to you. If you just bring change on one surface thats of is, is widespread. And in order for structural change to take face and the most effective change dictates it needs to be systemic. It needs to be institutionalized. So hopefully youre addressing every level of the problem. Yes, 100 percent farrah, you started climate warriors and youre a part of the collective movements. Tell me what collect his movement is and what would you do with them . So the collector women is a youth lead in the sectional kind of group. And we into changed time and justice to social justice and vice versa. Um, so its a group of young activists. And recently i work as well being on social media and online because its a pest demick. So this year we working on trying to change through a pen african context. So interviewing or having discussions with active us from uganda and kenya and just forwarding out perspective on time, a change and how the policy making takes place in different areas around the world. And different challenges and coming up with solutions. And then also spreading awareness and advocating and pushing for the climate just as taught to movement, to educate as many people on the time of change issue and exposing the intersection ality needed and bringing about increase of a team within the time of justice and movement. Why do you think specifically in the south african context that Climate Justice have taken a backseat to other issues such as you know, the ones that can do minutes and i will talk to them about that. So i think in the past, obviously if youre looking at a pre democratic south africa where people are fighting against the positives, redeem and fighting for liberation, come and change, understandably so is going to take a backseat. When you find them to be free in your own country. But if youre looking at a post apology in south africa where we living in a democracy, i think theres a huge sense of apathy from those impala that 50 the people impala putting profit before the people we living. And we stuck in those capital list. Months it, another issue is the kind of electricity rates in south africa are extremely low and that comes down to an educational issue. So apathy and the lack of time and literacy coach could you, is it, what do you think are the intersections between Climate Justice and the other kinds of justice that you know your books drives really interesting. Hey, i really like the fact that, you know, bridging time, adjust this with social testers. And i think for large, you know, for a long time weve thought about kind of just as a stand alone kind of, you know, struggle, you know, its like sitting the in the coordinate. Nobody really wants to view. Busy but what has been very important, and its been a quite a big eye opener for me myself as a, as a feminist, as the work has been doing informal settlements. And how, when you spoke about, looked to see environmental literacy. How you know, useful, struggling to make the connections a community they will between the environment and social justice. Planing, solved for one of the communities that be working is called cause of out of pocket informal assessment for water and sanitation. Breakdown in infrastructure. And just listening to you can really see, you know, how kind of testers fits into that dried. But i do believe that to a large extent. But the kind of Justice Movement has positioned itself as quite a wide elite movement. Right. It struggled to deal with a very concrete conditions that an ordinary person in south africas face a. But i think in a country next of africa, we need to be able to who in ground i do are the g n o advocacy in the live experiences of people on a day to day basis. Sarah, what do you say to this. C time to change for the long this time it had seemed like a very a privilege issue. If i am struggling to put food on my plate, why should i care about the quality . Why should i care about this on the beach . And i think that comes down to the need for climate conscious media and was kind of conscious media in case of a t. So looking at Climate Change across the world and, and also understanding that solutions that may work in the west on going to work in africa for various reasons. We have different economies, different policies, different governments, different histories. It just loads it. And i think whats very vital when looking at time of justice and time of change is looking at it to an intersection of ladings. So instead of separating environmental affective and the social factors, bridging them to get close common justice and social justice engines, a team link together to bring a valid positive change by testing one. That solution is going to affect the other in either a positive or negative way, depending on what the solution is. So if youre looking at time of change, geographically, time of change is going to disproportionate the effect pour of black communities. So within your activism you need to take within time and activism, you need to take into account causes and racism, sexism, and homophobia. For example, its a Natural Disaster would to strike those communities would be most vulnerable. And if you look at the way society treats those communities now imagine how much was its going to be when a future Natural Disaster is needed and needs to be brought to those communities. So advocating for human rights, you can pick and choose. No film of oppression exists in isolation. I wonder what you both think, you know, the possibility of achieving your ideas of what a just world looks like. What do you think the interesting implications of can that elizabeth has underwood fits you . Do get to me is that what im picking up is that capitalism inherits in the, you know, nor 5 as the individual. Its limitations. However, in activism that activism is not a one man show the rights and unfortunately, capitalism has created and is continues to grow up uh, civic action and civic and civic interventions and presents them as one man shows. Right, well we have this model so that comes out, you know, this, you know, it has uh, intimate sensation that comes out and is going to save the world, you know, blessing what that does is that breaks down organic Movement Building strategies, right . I dont think we have any strong tangible movements that are being, you know, that are being nurtured, but instead what were seeing was think individual active is rising and listen, im not saying its a bad thing to have the popstars of a move from indeed much theyre important, they keep the movement, funding dynamic, but i do think its important that you lose a activism in communities because these alternative realities that the ones you know, those anti capitalist reality that we want to feminist into fictional reality, thatd be one is not going to be false to buy an individual, it needs an active, you know, it needs at some input from a collective in order to drive recommended. And i think this is some of the critique of capitalism infiltrating. Civic, active as to work. Yeah. 100 percent. Community Community Based change is the most sustainable and effective change in the long. And if youre looking at capitalism in a cap to this, the globe, the most ideal position you can be in right now is to be a white man. And that breaks down so much, it breaks down the same, this movement and breaks down any movement laid by women. Capitalism breeds the system of any college. And of course, its always going to be if im winning someone else is losing. And like you said, its a very individual, a glorified individual look. And that is extremely problematic. Its also very problematic to have one face represent a home mend because it excludes people that dont match that face. That doesnt match the demographic. So yeah, definitely not common capitalism. Is the main cause to atomic crisis, sorry. Can i just add onto that . You know, i mean, im reflecting, reflecting such an important aspect of growing and as active as we should never stop reflecting. And when i think about, you know, the until parties movement. Firstly, i know for a fact that many people who participated in those movements and those forms of resistance will not participating because they were individuals that they were idolizing is because they felt a strong sense of, you know, personhood. I mean, the issue is affecting me directly before i need to actively participate in finding the solutions. And i think you know, the idea of the floor if i am of the individual grubs as of that. And i think of a community of a big to hold as grounded to hold us accountable and to make sure that we are working and living within the ideals of the i of the move and said we were present. Well, i guess in closing, im curious if, if its not clear so far what you both hope to achieve and if you feel optimistic about, you know, being able to actually achieve those things, keep them. Its a perpetual optimist. Firstly, as a disclaimer, so i definitely need to think things will get better. I do think that you know, we need to intensify our demands and struggles, but also change all of sites of, of, of, of, of oppression and 5 to 8, right . Ive seen so many times, you know, what activism and how we, tradition of, you know, activism to be said. You take to the streets right to get all the messages across. And although that is important, we also need to see some radical advancement and transformation in the policy and governance fee is right. And so as black women pull, cuz, you know, at the heart of the solutions that you propose as a social movement, is the realization. And strengthening of feminist movements, which okay, and so forth, a few minutes can either ship, we need to see an emissions of new radical feminists need as really shaping the world to where we want to take it. Right. And i understand the needs that weve got the right energies. Weve got the minds weve got the hots and the steward, sarah. Oh, like i said, any as time and inside tea. And the only thing i can sing onto is that time and inside his optimism towards the future, it drives me to constantly wake up and make the decision that this is what id like to change. And this is way, you know, that could be the change one to see an advocate for the change that youd like to see. So i think a main goal is to just get the same agency that we are carrying today with sending that to the hearts of our government. And i need to shift to the mountain to kind of emergency and to attack all of the social issues that weve unpacked today. Because once again, social justice is kind of justice and vice versa. So yeah, i think unification needs to do a taste like today between the generations and just, you know, keep the energy, dont let it die. I feel going up with social media. You see activism tends into a trade and then it brings a lot of performance of activism and every yeah and every month theres a new hash tag and something use trending. And, and so treating activism and social issues as a trade make it, keeping that advocacy along constant action that lives within your heart. Sarah, get to answer. Thank you so much for joining me and generation change. Thank across the young actor based and organizes around the move to they to and politically engage the challenges they face couldnt be more daunting here. And they, we were the ones who said lights on what was going on, and the way the tools me so media doesnt, theres nothing stuff that goes 7 or 7 on. Theres always in a number sense permission. We have the agency to create the volume of the generation on al jazeera, the is it for the west to re face the best options for the ukraine watch awards. And what would those options look like . What is us strategy when it comes to iran for almost 200 years, americans have generally been stuck with 2 political choices, but cannot ever change because it comes to us politics developed in law. 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