Hello. Welcome to the program and put in its diplomatic attempts to end. Israel is more ongoing as i have so far failed goals were cced 5, an end is arouse bombardments of palestinian homes. Well, for how much to release all his captives have gone unanswered. On tuesday, the Un Security Council held an open to pace on the conflict in his address secretary general antonio good tatters, noted how must have tons of october. The 7th didnt also occur in a vacuum and should be viewed in light of decades of occupation. His comments prompted a furious reaction from israel and demands for his resignation. Ultimately though, oh, permanent members of the Un Security Council need to be on board for binding resolution to be passed with such a deep divisions. What role can the un play in ending the will . Plenty to discuss with august 1st, this report from saturday, or even who has ruled those with the watch of antonio gutierrez, the United Nations secretary general. He was speaking at a Security Council open debate on the middle east. Most of the discussions focused on is roswell, on gaza, to tears condemned the tax to mass carried out in southern israel on october the 7th. But he said he was deeply concerned about play of violations of International Humanitarian law in gaza. The policy didnt people have been subjected to 56 years of simple guiding occupation. They have seen that land sadly be followed by supplements and plague by violence that economies fearful that people displaced their homes demolished. Not israel responded by quitting for his resignation. And its foreign minister eli cohen council, the plans meeting with him and that for the s g is blaming the victim. You are blaming is red. This is a your blood libel, this is a your but blood label. And i think that the secretary general must resign russia, china, the united arab emirates, an office quote for an end to the conflict with something absent from the us draft resolution describes well visiting the store because yours is the key point here is the need for a swift ceasefire. The fact that it was not included in the Council Draft was a step in the wrong direction and could be interpreted as counsel support for israels plan to conduct the ground defensive and gaza. The us says, humanitarian pauses on needed to allow aiden to gaza. Thats the polish simians. Thats known enough. We are here today to stop the killing. To stop the mass that goes being committed against the police to young people. It ongoing messages being deliberately on systematically and so obviously, but if its rated by use, right, the buying power against dependency nancy indian population under the illegal occupation must be stopped. The admission of the several sessions, the Un Security Council, has been unable to pass a resolution on the wall with such deep divisions between members. It begs the question, how much can the un really achieve fargo . The inside story lets bring in august is some boys. Richard folk, a visiting professor at the Senior University and a former, you in special reputable, fully occupied palestinian territories. And tell of eve is raphael jerusalem, a, a form that is really Intelligence Officer and security on the list. And in manila is chris, going to is a full met you and relief and works agency spokesperson, whos speaking today in an independent capacity. I will Welcome Table and chris, ill, ill start with you. How much influence can the un have when some of its most influential members are not interested in a safe spot . Well, we also, sadly is very little. And when you look at the is Ready Reaction to the very reasonable remarks of the you are the sexy general specifically said that there was a context of this farting the so it didnt happen in a vacuum. And when you look at this back to be is waiting for him and, and stuff immediately cancel the meeting with him as well as now said it will refuse to give visas, is very official, a, to do an official, including the highest amount of housing in the us system, you have to wonder when cents is going to bed, you have a situation where diplomatically, so making perfectly reasonable remarks meet us that the general finds himself projected by one side and on the ground. In the United Nations least, most agency which i used to what finds itself completely honest me use. Its have 600000 displaced people. Image schools, all searching thousands of itself would be withdrawn to the south and such as part of it stall, have been killed in full t of its the installation of being hit. So, you know, under is the only other Massive Service provider, apart from the power of city to start to have my sole source is capable of delivering, hey, so i mean, humanitarian sense, diplomatic sense, but you wouldnt find yourself completely marginalized. Richard is, is what do you agree with that is what you are powerless to do anything at the moment in my inmate and relation to god that yes you and is shown to be helpless in the face of the situation. But one must remember that the u. N is also important in the symbolism of politics. And it has had a dramatic effect on the peoples of the world. And the outrage that has that israel has encountered throughout the world for undertaking this kind of indiscriminate and mass of violence accompanied by direct cone and restrictions on the importation of food, electricity, fuel, and water. So it is an outrage that in the digital age, confronts people everywhere in real time and the you and it plays a role. And the secretary general was acting actually it in full accord with his responsibility as the highest. Okay. Administrative official in relation to the un charter. Oh, so the israeli outrage against him is just one more display of repudiation of international authority. All right, i mean let me pull it up then to to raphael, raphael, im telling you a good cetera. Says the grievances of the policy mean people cannot justify their pulling attacks by how much and those are pulling attacks cannot justify the collective punishment of the palestinian people. It seems a fairly, even a 100 thing to say why is not provoke such fuel re fuel res, response from israel . Well, 1st of all, i am inside womens business. The new address is a criteria general, the United Nations. When he said that the a soul of the, from us on user was not, you know, if i q and the, these very, very, very true because they have up to what, see is by the, the incitement from your on behind the fives. And there is the wrong, yeah. The russians, the chinese, a lot of power, the trucks are raising bowls gets always, sometimes people, you know, you mean these are in the way that sometimes it supports the from us instead of the big us. So right, so the right, really no vacuum on the country. We do see east tulip, she shot the see, get school of dangerous animals. Thats all pushing and helping to come up with weaponry is money, etc. Okay, the okay, but why the fuel response from israel went on . Sonya gutierrez says he wants the humanitarian. The you want want to you monitor and cease 5 for the innocent people. A policy needs in gaza. Why is there . I was so angry about the one we have to do the vacuum story more than the humanitarian, the ceasefire. Because the lucky on the story you know, way is the g managing and just the fun. So, and the, i sincerely hope and its already being prepared. The me start with us will appear in Court International board and the with the just impose indeed come no money. What he said, hes the 6 months suspended sentence. Jason, just because he has open unity and believe me as a bit, but the person are encouraged in the, in terms of the side this entire i want to say one was the right away. Okay. We, hes ready. People have no, hes running a no bridge to watch the see on the boat, we want anything in the children. We man, you know, sense even needs to be safe and we want them out of the combat zone because come, but there wouldnt be any. It would be a vinyl 2 months, and we point, im not using senior duties, are National Community and especially okay, agent until most of the countries did, you use closing his folder to what is the other so you can use the be direction g comes because now its up to door admin, g company in the south. Oh god. And then i think were waiting to see from cats are comes out of the radio play. No problem. I dont think one. Ok. And then john, oh, the come but so far and take a rough ill. Thank you. I mean, chris, theres not much. I mean, its a Un Security Council really going to be the best for them to eventually get to a cease fire when you know of a sally on to a fairly typical view from israel is what youre just hearing that from rafael. I was there on susan though, and thats why i should probably go to the General Assembly in the united states, the peace side actually, which is what happens when the Security Council is how strong. But if i may just look like to watch, rafael was saying about the set, the generals comments, if you read what was that gentleman said, what do you say is the context is a located a casa, which has gone on since 2007. And its most respectful to people to patient palestinian land, which began in 1967 with lips associates, a set to the volumes, which has increased with this fall rise set to coalition, which is headed but with walls headed by this dimension. Yahoo, im certainly mr. Gutierrez. Is referring to the uh, this possession of the palestinians in 19 full, james in the wholesale is maximums of palestinian society, which rose 750000. 00 refugees from their homes. They either fled or they were forced to flee the homes of actually those are the 3 underlying causes of this conflict which needs to be addressed is the is right, it is a, is there any civilians office and there is free from fat and your roses and im salty and if the palestinians are not to be isolated unblocked pages and rather caused and brutalized any more. So lets look at what was that the general has said, unless look positively on it as a way of addressing the underlying cause. Is this a mass abundance has a cause and contextualizing it is not to justify it. Trying to explain it is in no way any attempt to stand by. Im just splendid. So lets not just with jack. Well, the highest diplomat in the world is said is which of a project, as well as not just lost the stuff in jackson, the all star of the world community. Lets engage rafael with some of these ideas because that is the way future peaceful piece rate is positive. So what im looking at was the brace people of somebody as well as say those people who have the children to keep not that long suicide. I just want a single life to be lost in the name of my kid. Thats all my mothers shot. They are in the, the full front of the surgery, piece of people and rough outside of the company to listen to what that constituency is saying that i have crying out for peace. And those are the people, these really cool on board with gaza to have lost the most or a roughly i will come back to in a moment. But richard, 1st of all, because were trying to focus on the you and role here is the Security Council going to be the best for him to gotta cease fine . Well, i dont think its a feasible for him because of the geo political determination of giving israel unconditional support by the us friends and the u. K. Such a situation paralyzes, the Un Security Council. And the organization was created to give this kind of general political power. And it says sad moment when it is appreciated, that the worst of International Crimes can unfold while the world is watching. And the u. N. Is rendered health lets i think the aligning for a piece resolution approach via the General Assembly is a desirable one and the necessary one. But i would expect israel to be as arrogant and defined as it has been toward other aspects of view and an International Legal authority. A raphael, it was hopelessly uno mas fury amongst these right. At least one how much was able to get away with an october. The 7th is some of bucks your in that time to some of the on the un and attempt to deflect the frustrations of what, how much was able to get away with me. First of all, theres no fury and brought to be, is there any people just something that we are people piece the jewelry is the come us the key, the cruelty is to come up with the people of peace, but we have to be done out sales an issue, see that the interNational Community is not with this, your mistake in the United Nations. They wants to sue us, then they wouldnt have to. So because you know, my quote was upfront here yesterday you renewed his opposed any spoke of because he should see me not to do a combination fighting ivy spiking dash. So if we do our job and the job is before any c, fire, east jury is one objective with which we really use the night to come up, destroy the some us for ever and 3 guns out from the room. But if you want to do tennis off the, because what were doing is youre gonna have to sue the fridge. The british, the front world. Yeah. Americans because the old, you mean with this, with the now when we roughly how youve been in its really intelligent. So long enough to know that militarily, you are never going to be able to wipe out how much i mean, what is the and gaming gauze . You know, theres another water, you know, how many times we went to that we come do it in the 6 there was even today. And when did it just watch us. We have a surprise in store, but this is me. Sorry, i just want to continue to mazda to mention one is the legitimacy of the secretary general of the United Nations, which he has not forever by supporting terrorism. But i will also use some of those. Are you an institution of the come to see the cult piece of terrorism is were all, were not in jobs on east coast or anything with that service is not protecting the civilians as it should. I mean, did you change the room . But his thing and children hatred and changing the jews and suck, revising, and showing the game and jihad and reading, watching, i would use the United Nations of being a Company Since you have or isnt. Oh, i know, okay, just by so you know, you want just one thing and im finished up from is there youre going to think about the vision we have the budget does a years and years ago, and thats when the come uh, went into the back to you by giving the dental junior about the palm of this and we are not present being generally the or any, all those the way he does a for years and years and years. And thats the new stuff. We have given a lot of thousands of dollars of work very well doesnt work. Just have going to want to use all for governance to just do go abroad and we have and thats much in science, billions. Well get to the the more so we have to be the only really, we might need to turn in the economy. How does the you see the press dont or the disease, right . All right, well chris, ill have to let you come back and not youve spent long enough in gaza to explain the role of the you and ill let you come back. Yeah, yeah. Can i just walked backwards through some of those roughly those completely mendacious trends. Festival, this idea that info has left assume is relaxed and impose the blockade. The idea that its been generously allowing guesswork has into, as well to what can i say, but one of the Untold Stories of what happened to me last couple of weeks is the thousands of palestinian guest workers from joseph to be incarcerated and low top. We dont know where they all we have the we have somebody do. But thats a huge until story that about thousands of workers who was simply doing a job under wall sconces. And thats been rounded up and looked up the idea that roughly i would say that the secretary general is supporting terrorism. Honestly, what i feel people who listen to that and simply lost all your other ideas, some of which are a positive, reasonable to accuse the set to generally be a criminal of being someone who is supposed terrorism. Thats simply what resonate with anyone. Its congenital, but you can make these comments about the well talk diplomat whos working. Its hard to sleep alone with his supposed stop to bring peace to you all parts of the world. So you will come in under a, im a spokesman for 15 years. I dealt with this live time and time again. We have of people who would film from us schools where indeed the what of some accounts and other things which would teaching of extremism to, to children. We investigated every single one of those. And we showed that they will pull a pack of bye, certainly join the call is going to be 1000 and full team minutes would still rockets in our schools when we found them that the schools have been multiple so. So when we found these rocket components, the 1st people each felt pretty much with these ladies, we have no credit it so that instead, we were told the narrative when its how some smart regular, the time, and others the other is way. Suppose people on route was collaborating with terrace in order to send rockets again. So all of these as you run rough for under the simpleton terrorism probably fully investigated and the complete lights on the very last point about International Support to it. So if you actually listen to the global self opinions of people in the global south for them, this is the last antique colonial struggle. The last vestiges of the 6 level struggles from the 19th century. This is the last struggle against white people starting brown people off the on. If you look was capable rims people on the streets today, there are 3 or 4 issues. Those black plus maps of theres a need to move months of those global as part of the changes on the public stadiums and receives, do not invite and they better listen because theyre all on distract from their electric. Okay. And the street, the people on the planet all very much standing with the power of stadiums in the past it is in the mc colonial struggle. Okay. Richard were just told quick about what the un is trying to do. Now theyve been going to be another Security Council meeting while with a while. This program is on that they want to the us as cold for polls in the fighting rush. It wants a humanitarian c spine, help us understand what the differences and what you would like to see. I would like to see a cessation of the violence altogether and humanitarian cease fire is something that is generally understood as a prelude to political negotiations. And how much is elected, remember that a mass, unless, as a political actor, that has committed a terrorist act in its attack of october 7th. But the idea of eradicating a political actor because it has committed an act of terrorism would apply to many governments including that of israel and is a very dangerous doctrine. And as its being implemented in the violence that weve witnessed so far, it has to jeopardize the lives of thousands and thousands of innocent pat listed in people including several 1000 palestinians will show that it is a great tragedy in catastrophe about which the un as an organization cannot do any thing affective so long as these western powers block it from opposing the continuation of this uh, on slot, on the palestinian people. All right, chris is going to be an after when israel decides its done as much as it can in gaza. Whats it going to need the un full then . To frankly, as we say, its going to need the un in the humanitarian sense. And that really puts on a sense of stage. And that means under, it has to be probably funded, even before this current across is on the 7th about sort of under a was over a 100000000. 00 schultz, but its regular programs and it since issued a flash appeal full of 100000000. So yes, it will need that you and that it will lead on the well, the dont really, im really needs to be probably funded by the world. And the is the other huge Service Provider apart from them as well. So its, its unreal. Has engineers, it has health work cuz it has teachers, it has such as visual support system in the community. It has a broad range of social services that is in the office. And those are going to have to be, be massively wrapped up if theres a board of humanitarian catastrophe, which frankly, with, in the midst of it was, i said, 600000. 00 people taking refuge in almost school schools, which is designed for a 1000 kids during the day and then to be at 2009. So theres a massive tasks and run into anything else in the schools. But beyond that, theres going to be a huge rebuilding and rehabilitation program. Again, this is the best more the honora and god, so that under a has lived through. So under, has experience in doing this on the diplomatic from is we difficult to know. Well, the way forward will be because you have to, as well. Erica lee, a condemning the secretary general, completely unjustifiably, but again, the un will come to the thing to it. So because its going to be the place where all the policy is able to get to that is to tools get a fit is no other for them. So if you notice that you, it doesnt exist Something Like you would have to be offensive. It only didnt exist, Something Like you would have to be invented, but we have to get away from this idea of is well and its american chevy to city being able to reject the way that its not going to work in the postal dispensation. Okay. Um uh, richard took his present wretched type, good ones as a and by the end of the inability to agree to a resolution regarding gaza. He wants to reform at the Security Council is not the 1st time his goal for that. But also brazil is present, literally the syllabus says, whats happening now in the u. N. Is exposing the weakness of the you. When do you see those . Recognize those goals as of a need for a full them of how the you and operates. I do, but i dont think very political conditions will allow that reform to take place precisely because these powers dont want to give up their capacity to paralyze the organization. If its prescriptions go contrary to the strategic interest. And this is a shocking example where the, the leading democratic constitutional governments of the world are over li, endorsing the most in use of crimes that unfold day by day and guys, and have committed the worst crimes that have been shown to the world. And since world war 2, so its a shocking moment. All right. And thanks to our guests to richard folk and chris gunners and to ruffle jerusalem a who joined us earlier and thank you to for watching. You can see the problem again. 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